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		<title>By: Clyde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,
Thanks for reminding me about forums.  I have used them and I recommend using them but, I seemed to have stopped due to the time involved in waiting on results.

Forum marketing and article marketing fall into the same boat with me.  Both are excellent ways to promote yourself and your products but they do not work fast.  That means I get tired of messing with them.

Ok, you have slapped me in the face and woke me up once again.  I am off to make some posts on the Warrior Forum and look for a new one.

Keep them cards and letter, I mean blog posts, coming.

Thanks,
Clyde</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,<br />
Thanks for reminding me about forums.  I have used them and I recommend using them but, I seemed to have stopped due to the time involved in waiting on results.</p>
<p>Forum marketing and article marketing fall into the same boat with me.  Both are excellent ways to promote yourself and your products but they do not work fast.  That means I get tired of messing with them.</p>
<p>Ok, you have slapped me in the face and woke me up once again.  I am off to make some posts on the Warrior Forum and look for a new one.</p>
<p>Keep them cards and letter, I mean blog posts, coming.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Clyde</p>
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		<title>By: Sudarmaji Lamiran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sudarmaji Lamiran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Robert,

Based on your experience
Which is better to put at your sig?
1. your blog url
2. your page url, 
3. your freebie page, or
3. product url?

Sud.L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robert,</p>
<p>Based on your experience<br />
Which is better to put at your sig?<br />
1. your blog url<br />
2. your page url,<br />
3. your freebie page, or<br />
3. product url?</p>
<p>Sud.L</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HiRobert, Thanks for the detailed tips, I LOVE DETAIL. I have a problem though, I have looked at many forums in my niche and they have in their rules that you aren&#039;t to mention any commercial, sales sites or the like anywhere so I am hesitant to bother with posting answers (ie build relationships/trust) then go back and ad a link to my site (even a cloaked one) only to have it all removed...big waste of time. 

What would your recommendation be to build a list without forums? I have just completed my e-book (and it&#039;s a damn good one I might ad:))but have not one name on a list...I was toying with the idea of paying for adwords to an opt in but after reading your list building response-ideas the pay per click subscribers were low converting...your thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HiRobert, Thanks for the detailed tips, I LOVE DETAIL. I have a problem though, I have looked at many forums in my niche and they have in their rules that you aren't to mention any commercial, sales sites or the like anywhere so I am hesitant to bother with posting answers (ie build relationships/trust) then go back and ad a link to my site (even a cloaked one) only to have it all removed...big waste of time. </p>
<p>What would your recommendation be to build a list without forums? I have just completed my e-book (and it's a damn good one I might ad:))but have not one name on a list...I was toying with the idea of paying for adwords to an opt in but after reading your list building response-ideas the pay per click subscribers were low converting...your thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: For Small Business Loans</title>
		<link>http://www.robertplank.com/relationship-building/#comment-259</link>
		<dc:creator>For Small Business Loans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sometimes I’ll type a reply that’s SO good, I won’t waste it on a forum and stick it into an e-book.&quot;

and that nugget of gold, dear robert, should be a post of its own.

:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Sometimes I’ll type a reply that’s SO good, I won’t waste it on a forum and stick it into an e-book."</p>
<p>and that nugget of gold, dear robert, should be a post of its own.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.robertplank.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert Plank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Plank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s exactly right about spending time wisely.  You don&#039;t go to a forum to make friends or waste time from doing any real work.

Sometimes when I go to a forum I can&#039;t find anything relevant to reply to.  I will admit there is a lot of crap to get through and maybe you only care about reading 5% of the content and you can only reply to 1% of it.

I only check forums 1-3 days per week on average, and my visits last less than 10 minutes.  Usually I can&#039;t find anything good to reply to.  Sometimes I&#039;ll reply to 10 threads in 10 minutes.  Sometimes I&#039;ll type a reply that&#039;s SO good, I won&#039;t waste it on a forum and stick it into an e-book.

Like you said, you have to keep creating a steady stream of new products for forum marketing to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That's exactly right about spending time wisely.  You don't go to a forum to make friends or waste time from doing any real work.</p>
<p>Sometimes when I go to a forum I can't find anything relevant to reply to.  I will admit there is a lot of crap to get through and maybe you only care about reading 5% of the content and you can only reply to 1% of it.</p>
<p>I only check forums 1-3 days per week on average, and my visits last less than 10 minutes.  Usually I can't find anything good to reply to.  Sometimes I'll reply to 10 threads in 10 minutes.  Sometimes I'll type a reply that's SO good, I won't waste it on a forum and stick it into an e-book.</p>
<p>Like you said, you have to keep creating a steady stream of new products for forum marketing to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Volkan Kalpak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Volkan Kalpak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 11:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Robert, the way you do marketing is worth studying. Your use of forums is something that not a lot of people can do.

The main reason for this is, IMHO, that you can create product after product easily, which is one of your strengths.

Some high-profile marketers, like James D. Brausch, have opposite views on forums, simply because most people have a tendency to read forums instead of &quot;creating products&quot; or &quot;marketing products&quot;. They don&#039;t spend their time wisely.

That is why I think YOU are one of those rare guys who really &quot;got&quot; forum marketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robert, the way you do marketing is worth studying. Your use of forums is something that not a lot of people can do.</p>
<p>The main reason for this is, IMHO, that you can create product after product easily, which is one of your strengths.</p>
<p>Some high-profile marketers, like James D. Brausch, have opposite views on forums, simply because most people have a tendency to read forums instead of "creating products" or "marketing products". They don't spend their time wisely.</p>
<p>That is why I think YOU are one of those rare guys who really "got" forum marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Plank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Plank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, I am also working on a physical CD as well but because digital products are a lot less hassle, I keep delaying it.  I am really dreading dealing with refunds with those or dealing with people who claim not to get the product.

I have the sales letter ready to go, the product is all finished, I was just having some issues uploading the bigass file to SwiftCD the last time I was working on it.

All I can say about my experiences buying physical digital products is make sure to have an immediate download PLUS ship the CD.  If you think the videos are too large, size them down and create a low-bandwidth web version of them so your customers have something to keep the busy until the CD arrives in the mail.

Steven, the private forum was Scot Sandke&#039;s Keyword Avalanche.  It was one of those membership sites where they offered some monthly content, but what you were really paying for was access to a really really good forum.

Kind of like when the Warrior Forum cost money, you paid that $50 to get in and it was worth every penny and more, this forum was well worth the $60/month.

It was a forum about niche building, it really opened my eyes because it was in 2005 when most of us still didn&#039;t have a clue about AdSense, there weren&#039;t a ton of ebooks and home study courses on the subject like there are now.

I was stupidly using my PHP scripting skills to build huge sites that I wanted to earn $400/month while the people there were smart and setting up 10 sites per day, that each made $1 a day.  In the end I realized site building wasn&#039;t for me and now I&#039;m stuck with a content site I can&#039;t get rid of but that&#039;s a whole other story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I am also working on a physical CD as well but because digital products are a lot less hassle, I keep delaying it.  I am really dreading dealing with refunds with those or dealing with people who claim not to get the product.</p>
<p>I have the sales letter ready to go, the product is all finished, I was just having some issues uploading the bigass file to SwiftCD the last time I was working on it.</p>
<p>All I can say about my experiences buying physical digital products is make sure to have an immediate download PLUS ship the CD.  If you think the videos are too large, size them down and create a low-bandwidth web version of them so your customers have something to keep the busy until the CD arrives in the mail.</p>
<p>Steven, the private forum was Scot Sandke's Keyword Avalanche.  It was one of those membership sites where they offered some monthly content, but what you were really paying for was access to a really really good forum.</p>
<p>Kind of like when the Warrior Forum cost money, you paid that $50 to get in and it was worth every penny and more, this forum was well worth the $60/month.</p>
<p>It was a forum about niche building, it really opened my eyes because it was in 2005 when most of us still didn't have a clue about AdSense, there weren't a ton of ebooks and home study courses on the subject like there are now.</p>
<p>I was stupidly using my PHP scripting skills to build huge sites that I wanted to earn $400/month while the people there were smart and setting up 10 sites per day, that each made $1 a day.  In the end I realized site building wasn't for me and now I'm stuck with a content site I can't get rid of but that's a whole other story.</p>
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		<title>By: For Small Business Loans</title>
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		<dc:creator>For Small Business Loans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Robert.

Just going off now to modify my forum link in a forum i frequent to make it only one link, titled, and centered...

:)

thanks for the great tip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Robert.</p>
<p>Just going off now to modify my forum link in a forum i frequent to make it only one link, titled, and centered...</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.robertplank.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>thanks for the great tip.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Schwartzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Schwartzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robbie,

In your video you mention a forum that you pay $60 a month to access.  You haven&#039;t mentioned this before so I&#039;m curious...WHAT IS IT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robbie,</p>
<p>In your video you mention a forum that you pay $60 a month to access.  You haven't mentioned this before so I'm curious...WHAT IS IT?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Robert,

I must say this is opening my eyes a bit. I have only ever posted ontwo forums and then only a couple of times ... yours is one of them.  What puts me off is the time taken to look at forums and then post on something that I know about.  Some other foms of marketing take less time and produce me quite good results. One example is I use TrafficSwarm a lot. I do switch in and out of being a paid though depending on howmy finances are going!

I am only part time and have not yet settled on something specific although I amgetting there. I will be advertising some CD&#039;s with videos of 3 to 6 new areas of internet marketing which  very few people know about. They are physical CD&#039;s rather than downloads. They are on CD because of their size. Not sure yet when I will release them as it will take a while for me to build the websites and the automated fulfillment solution - probably Kunaki.

It will be a very low key launch to a couple of my lists in the first instance to test the response. 

May even look at some JV although this is not something I have ever undertaken before.  

Any thoughts on the type of marketing for a physical digital product?

Thanks for your tips and look forward to next installment of PHP Uncensored.

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robert,</p>
<p>I must say this is opening my eyes a bit. I have only ever posted ontwo forums and then only a couple of times ... yours is one of them.  What puts me off is the time taken to look at forums and then post on something that I know about.  Some other foms of marketing take less time and produce me quite good results. One example is I use TrafficSwarm a lot. I do switch in and out of being a paid though depending on howmy finances are going!</p>
<p>I am only part time and have not yet settled on something specific although I amgetting there. I will be advertising some CD's with videos of 3 to 6 new areas of internet marketing which  very few people know about. They are physical CD's rather than downloads. They are on CD because of their size. Not sure yet when I will release them as it will take a while for me to build the websites and the automated fulfillment solution - probably Kunaki.</p>
<p>It will be a very low key launch to a couple of my lists in the first instance to test the response. </p>
<p>May even look at some JV although this is not something I have ever undertaken before.  </p>
<p>Any thoughts on the type of marketing for a physical digital product?</p>
<p>Thanks for your tips and look forward to next installment of PHP Uncensored.</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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