Hi! what's holding me back is money everything lost job, house. Ramon Thanks

Okay Ramon, if you are homeless then you shouldn't be in internet marketing.

That's why all I share is tips. You can't take in all the info at once. You won't make a bunch of money at once.

If you lost your job, get a new one. I know people aren't hiring as much right now but if you have no choice but to get a lower paying day job, fine. If you have to move into a small apartment for a while, fine. Just don't feel sorry for yourself, that's the worst thing you can do.

Get a job, get all your debts taken care of, then start freelancing on the side, then start infoproduct marketing, then start partnering up with other people.

If it helps: Walt Disney, Ulysses S. Grant, Larry King, Abraham Lincoln, Donald Trump, and Mark Twain... all declared bankruptcy and built themselves back up.

I think you have the ten comments you need so just let me say the following..

After being lied to and ripped off for about 8-9 years, you Robert, and a very very small cadre of others have graciously given me priceless information at an affordable price. Sometimes for free.

I empathize completely with those who feel bitter about their online marketing experience. Most really do not care if you make it online and will say anything they think you want to hear to make a big sale.

When it comes to Ramon I lost my house and everything about 13 years ago. I feel your pain. I could easily be bitter about getting worthless information and getting ripped off so many times.

However, Robert Plank has never ripped me off at all. I also recommend the blog NetProfitsToday.com by Rosalind Gardner as she fairly often lets loose with some real jewels of wisdom while answering questions on her blog.

So choose your online friends wisely and do absorb as much knowledge as possible so you can share, not rip off, with your customers etc.

Take Roberts advice about blogging about your experiences and fairly soon I will be naming the bad guys on my blog even if some of the big names try to retaliate against me. I don't give a you know what. Catch me if you can. When duty calls I've got balls.

So now you think your an old fart instead of a punk kid. Well, the old fart is smart.

"Be defiant in defeat and be magnanimous in victory"

Your friend always,
Frank Funston Eckdall
P.D. The really old fart, but I can still pull in the girls er I mine women!

I'd also love to hear your experience with such a type of upsell.

were that done before the sale, i'd cancel the entire transaction, as would 'most everyone!

But right after the sale.. that would be a real bummer!

This is a world of liars and dishonest people, otherwise they would have a real job - cartographer, physicist, photographer, teacher, whatever. The more you lie, the more you make $$$.

Wow, what a cynical thing to say. There are plenty of honest marketers out there.

I have heard enough stories (Perry Belcher, Frank Kern, Kevin Trudeau, Vincent James, Don LaPre) that if you lie on sales letters, the FTC will shut you down.

It doesn't make sense to lie in the long term, but a few people still do it... don't let that distract you from the fact there are tons and tons of people who have graduated from what you call a "real job" who are 100% honest in their business.

This is a world of liars and dishonest people, otherwise they would have a real job - cartographer, physicist, photographer, teacher, whatever. The more you lie, the more you make $$$. "Smart" people take this as a opportunity to make money off people. Not sure they enjoy lying. But sure they LOVE money.

If the upsell is something **else** that works well with the product that I just purchased, fine. I can see, for example, selling a good ebook but offering hand-holding coaching as an add-on.

Great point. It sounds like that happened to you... do you mind sharing the details with us, leaving the names out?

That's all the more reason that if you have a multi-part course, make each course stand on its own... instead of part 1, part 2, part 3, etc. of a system.

If the upsell is something **else** that works well with the product that I just purchased, fine. I can see, for example, selling a good ebook but offering hand-holding coaching as an add-on.

But the upsell proposition **must not** invalidate the initial purchase and make a liar out of the sales page. When someone does that, I make a point never to buy from them again or to represent them as an affiliate.