1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,320 Robert Plank: Marketer of the Day episode 715 do your happy 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,680 and get the spark back to make better decisions, recover 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:12,000 passion, reignite creativity and have fun with Vernon Brown. 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,380 Hello and welcome back to the marketer of the day podcast. We 5 00:00:19,380 --> 00:00:22,340 are here with return guest, Vernon brown. You can find his 6 00:00:22,340 --> 00:00:26,480 old appearance at marketer of the day.com/four to eight. And 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,140 Vernon is all about finding your happiness. His work has touched 8 00:00:30,140 --> 00:00:34,460 the lives of 1000s of executives to increase employee engagement, 9 00:00:34,580 --> 00:00:37,400 as well as entrepreneurs who have doubled their business 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,140 beyond six figures. And as and Vernon has helped save countless 11 00:00:41,140 --> 00:00:45,820 lives and countless personal relationships in the process. 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,480 His website is, once you're happy, but that's happy with an 13 00:00:49,480 --> 00:00:54,400 i, so that's W, H, A, T, S, Y, o, u, r, H, A, P, P, i.com 14 00:00:55,420 --> 00:00:57,760 Vernon, glad to have you back. What's the latest? Rob, 15 00:00:57,999 --> 00:00:59,919 Vernon Brown: thanks for having me here, man, I appreciate it. 16 00:01:00,159 --> 00:01:04,979 Part Two, the latest, gosh, I'm gearing up for workshops. 17 00:01:05,039 --> 00:01:09,659 Workshops for healthcare are my big thing now, just, I shouldn't 18 00:01:09,659 --> 00:01:13,139 say just healthcare, but my big, my big drivers, women healthcare 19 00:01:13,139 --> 00:01:16,859 to get the people who are on the front lines of giving people the 20 00:01:16,859 --> 00:01:19,139 best support, the best help. You know, both physically and 21 00:01:19,139 --> 00:01:21,419 mentally, they they need to be taken care of as well, getting 22 00:01:21,419 --> 00:01:23,959 them more connected with their happy you with their happy. 23 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:24,559 Fantastic. 24 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,420 Robert Plank: And so you're talking about getting connected 25 00:01:26,420 --> 00:01:29,000 with their happy and healthcare. And what is, what does 26 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,000 healthcare mean? Exactly, we're talking about like coverage or 27 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,020 self care, or self care, or like mental, I don't know, like being 28 00:01:36,020 --> 00:01:38,720 alive. What are we talking about here? So it would 29 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,340 Vernon Brown: be doctors, nurse practitioners, just physicians 30 00:01:42,340 --> 00:01:46,120 as a whole. Nursing is a big, big, big thing, because it's a 31 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,740 boom in industry and such a big need for nurses that a lot of 32 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,760 healthcare workers I just mentioned they're tired, and if 33 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,400 they're not only are they tired, but they are the people taking 34 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,360 care of us like they it's seldom, and I know this 35 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:05,220 personally, just growing up in a family of nurses, it's it often 36 00:02:05,220 --> 00:02:08,040 gets overlooked. The helpers tend to help other people before 37 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,380 they help themselves or take their time and give themselves 38 00:02:10,380 --> 00:02:14,640 the space. So, so the people who kind of get, I get on the front 39 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:17,400 end, on the front line, yeah. I 40 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,620 Robert Plank: mean, you can't pour from an empty cup, right? 41 00:02:19,620 --> 00:02:23,720 So is there an easy starting point? If someone says, you 42 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,960 know, I'm I'm in healthcare, or not in healthcare, I'm 43 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,960 overworked. I'm helping everyone else. Just non duck time for me, 44 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,680 what is something that people can do right now, today, within 45 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,200 the next few minutes, either like, some kind of, like 46 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,900 awareness or some kind of action? How can we get a quick 47 00:02:38,900 --> 00:02:43,060 win towards getting the the energy back, getting the magic 48 00:02:43,060 --> 00:02:44,620 back, getting the fulfillment back. 49 00:02:45,220 --> 00:02:47,020 Vernon Brown: It's a couple of things. I think a big question 50 00:02:47,020 --> 00:02:50,920 here is, what made you get into healthcare? And that question is 51 00:02:50,920 --> 00:02:54,700 kind of going back to to the passion, into the spark. You 52 00:02:54,700 --> 00:02:56,860 know, did you get into it because you wanted to connect 53 00:02:56,860 --> 00:02:59,920 with people? And then once you the second step there is, you 54 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:03,180 know, what can you do to make it fun again? How can you start to 55 00:03:03,180 --> 00:03:05,160 have fun with this? What are some ways you can practice 56 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,580 having fun with it daily? You know, sometimes in healthcare, 57 00:03:08,580 --> 00:03:10,620 you know, dealing with reimbursement, dealing with 58 00:03:10,620 --> 00:03:13,920 different protocols being called down, there isn't much space. 59 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,680 There isn't much space created for fun. So you got to try to 60 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:20,400 create that space 61 00:03:21,419 --> 00:03:25,459 Robert Plank: yourself. So just gonna say, Do you have an easy 62 00:03:25,519 --> 00:03:29,359 way of doing that? Or in the the people that you, you coach, or 63 00:03:29,359 --> 00:03:33,199 that you, you train or you deal with? It's one thing to say, you 64 00:03:33,199 --> 00:03:36,439 know, find remember back when you started and when you were 65 00:03:36,439 --> 00:03:40,359 happy, or how do you make it fun again? What solutions do people 66 00:03:40,359 --> 00:03:43,359 normally arrive at when they're trying to find ways to get the 67 00:03:43,359 --> 00:03:44,019 phone back. Think 68 00:03:45,099 --> 00:03:47,619 Vernon Brown: some of the biggest things is they stopped. 69 00:03:48,579 --> 00:03:51,819 They got themselves too busy. They started over, committing to 70 00:03:51,819 --> 00:03:53,799 certain things. That's a big thing that I see, and there's 71 00:03:53,799 --> 00:03:56,079 some things that you have to learn to say no to, is putting 72 00:03:56,079 --> 00:03:59,019 those boundaries back up. Whenever I work with and I know 73 00:03:59,019 --> 00:04:02,459 this, just a few contact positions, they started got so 74 00:04:02,519 --> 00:04:06,119 busy, and they started taking on certain things that they really 75 00:04:06,119 --> 00:04:09,479 don't need to do. And I see a lot of business. I've seen a lot 76 00:04:09,479 --> 00:04:11,939 of business this year, especially a lot of my clients 77 00:04:11,939 --> 00:04:14,339 that are in healthcare who are in the nurse practitioner world. 78 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,960 Robert Plank: And so as far as those tasks that people like 79 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,620 kind of say yes to too many things take on too much. What 80 00:04:21,620 --> 00:04:23,720 sort of things are people taking on too much of 81 00:04:24,740 --> 00:04:26,420 Vernon Brown: some of those things, especially if you have a 82 00:04:26,420 --> 00:04:29,480 family, are getting them children, and it's, it's getting 83 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,200 the kids overly involved, overly but kind of stretching 84 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,680 themselves then to keep up with some of their kids events and 85 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,100 activities. And it's, do you really? Is there someone else 86 00:04:40,100 --> 00:04:43,420 that you could call that, could help you out with that. Do the 87 00:04:43,420 --> 00:04:46,720 kids have enough space, you know, to be kids by kind of 88 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,440 filling the schedule up? So again, you got to take that one 89 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,840 kind of with the grain. Take that one with a grain of salt. I 90 00:04:52,840 --> 00:04:55,900 just that one's fresh in my mind from call ahead earlier, 91 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,440 recognizing that if something's taken. You to double the time to 92 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,780 finish. Maybe you should take a break from it. And it's 93 00:05:03,780 --> 00:05:06,120 sometimes we think if we're going to do something and only 94 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,520 takes us 20 minutes. Now, it takes two hours you need a 95 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,580 break. And then when they say you need a break, and it's okay 96 00:05:11,580 --> 00:05:12,120 to take 97 00:05:13,380 --> 00:05:15,900 Robert Plank: a break, and when you're describing that, it 98 00:05:15,900 --> 00:05:18,720 sounds like that, that whole thing of like the if you when 99 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,200 you've been working for 12 hours straight, your mind begins to 100 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,480 play tricks on you, right? Like, because you're you're you're 101 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,120 running out of gas, running out of batteries, and you think 102 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,520 that, you think that you're productive, but you're not. And 103 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,060 if only you had handed it off to someone else, or, like, took a 104 00:05:32,060 --> 00:05:35,540 nap, took a walk, trained gears, and came back to it, then you'd 105 00:05:35,540 --> 00:05:38,480 get it done. But just because you keep on trying to push it's 106 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,400 it's not working right? 107 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,520 Vernon Brown: And that's what happens. And it can happen. It's 108 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,300 anybody and everybody, smart, capable people. One of the first 109 00:05:46,300 --> 00:05:49,060 things that they do is they get busy. That's something about the 110 00:05:49,060 --> 00:05:52,120 long and short of it, and it's some oftentimes, when I kind of 111 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,220 go through an audit, their schedule, audit, some of their 112 00:05:54,220 --> 00:05:57,520 perceptions. It's a lot of busy. It's a lot of things you really 113 00:05:57,820 --> 00:06:00,780 could ask for some help with. You could maybe give it to a way 114 00:06:00,780 --> 00:06:03,360 to you could pass it off to someone else, or you can really 115 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,760 say, is it bringing you any closer to what you really want? 116 00:06:05,940 --> 00:06:09,420 Is it truly helping you? Sometimes we get realizing that 117 00:06:09,420 --> 00:06:11,820 we leveled up and we don't need to do certain things anymore, 118 00:06:13,020 --> 00:06:15,060 Robert Plank: and I imagine that they see a lot of that, like 119 00:06:15,060 --> 00:06:17,640 this seems to be really common thing of just like, you know, 120 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,240 going through the motions, going through the day to day, and just 121 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,180 charging forward and then not realizing, like, Wait, what was 122 00:06:23,180 --> 00:06:26,600 my goal again? Or why am I doing this, or how important it is. 123 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,900 And so you mentioned there that you don't just, you know, just 124 00:06:29,900 --> 00:06:33,920 dispel the the the quotes, the things, but you also kind of 125 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,900 look at the data, right? You saying that you like, you do 126 00:06:35,900 --> 00:06:38,000 things like you dive deep, and you look at these people's 127 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,320 schedules and things like that. 128 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,520 Vernon Brown: Yep, I get in completely involved with 129 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,920 everything, because I have to know, I have to understand, it's 130 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,100 not to dissect and see what's wrong. But really looking at, is 131 00:06:48,100 --> 00:06:50,680 this really moving the needle forward? Is this making you 132 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,580 happy? Is this giving you energy? Is this, is this taking 133 00:06:54,580 --> 00:06:56,920 away that powerful brain power that you could be putting 134 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,340 towards something else? And it's those questions they start to 135 00:07:00,340 --> 00:07:03,300 wake you up. So it's a little different for it's a little 136 00:07:03,300 --> 00:07:06,120 different for everyone. No, no, no, you're good. It's 137 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,460 conversation. It's a little different for everyone. But 138 00:07:08,460 --> 00:07:12,600 there's always a certain level of busy out off the cuff, I'll 139 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,900 say 30% of the schedules i audit, and look at some of the 140 00:07:15,900 --> 00:07:18,360 wood that you're at the time. It just doesn't need to be there. 141 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,840 And it's not me saying that, it's that my clients saying 142 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,520 that, like, I guess I really don't need to do 143 00:07:23,839 --> 00:07:25,759 Robert Plank: that, and what I like and, yeah, and I almost 144 00:07:25,759 --> 00:07:28,039 interrupted you, but let you finish your thought is, like, I 145 00:07:28,039 --> 00:07:30,919 really like that, that little thread that we had out there a 146 00:07:30,919 --> 00:07:35,839 minute ago of, if you're so busy and you're so tired, you're 147 00:07:35,839 --> 00:07:38,479 going to, like, miss out on your creativity, right? You're going 148 00:07:38,479 --> 00:07:40,839 to miss out on your greatness. So with these people that you're 149 00:07:40,839 --> 00:07:43,899 helping out, does a specific story come to mind about someone 150 00:07:43,899 --> 00:07:47,019 like that who maybe they weren't even, like, really aware that 151 00:07:47,019 --> 00:07:49,959 much of the problem, but once you jumped in, worked your 152 00:07:49,959 --> 00:07:53,499 magic, got them refreshed, got them back, then they suddenly, 153 00:07:53,499 --> 00:07:57,039 like, could think again. Is any story come to mind like that? 154 00:07:57,339 --> 00:07:59,559 Vernon Brown: Yeah, it does. And that's a really good question. 155 00:07:59,559 --> 00:08:04,139 So this lady, I wouldn't say late, and we're midway through a 156 00:08:04,139 --> 00:08:07,259 career, she's had a phenomenal, phenomenal executive presence. 157 00:08:07,319 --> 00:08:11,459 And what had happened was she heard me doing a workshop, and 158 00:08:11,459 --> 00:08:16,079 she reached out to me, and what made her connect with me? She 159 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:19,259 said she just kind of lost her, her fight, her kind of her spark 160 00:08:19,259 --> 00:08:23,539 with things. So when she came in, I could just see that she 161 00:08:23,539 --> 00:08:26,119 was this very powerful person. I could see that she's very 162 00:08:26,119 --> 00:08:29,179 astute, she's very sharp, she's just there. She's with it, but 163 00:08:29,179 --> 00:08:32,179 the way she presented was not the same. She was very quiet, 164 00:08:32,179 --> 00:08:36,439 she took small steps, she just seemed almost a shell of who she 165 00:08:36,439 --> 00:08:38,959 was. And I could see that clear as day, because I'm looking at 166 00:08:38,959 --> 00:08:41,079 her, because we met through video chat, and most of my 167 00:08:41,079 --> 00:08:43,179 clients don't have to video chat. I mean, a lot of my 168 00:08:43,179 --> 00:08:47,019 clients in different places geographically. But when I saw 169 00:08:47,019 --> 00:08:49,839 her, I'm like, this is going to interest him, she said that she 170 00:08:49,839 --> 00:08:52,419 was getting overlooked because she was a woman. She said that 171 00:08:52,419 --> 00:08:54,519 share with me she was getting overlooked because of her 172 00:08:54,519 --> 00:08:56,799 gender. She also let me know that she felt like she wasn't 173 00:08:56,799 --> 00:08:59,199 making the money she was supposed to. She felt as though 174 00:08:59,199 --> 00:09:01,679 her team didn't respect her. It was taking her so much longer to 175 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:06,059 get work done. And it was suffering, not only carefully 176 00:09:06,059 --> 00:09:08,939 used that were suffering, but she was struggling. You know, 177 00:09:08,939 --> 00:09:11,579 not only professionally, but personally. If things are like 178 00:09:11,579 --> 00:09:14,999 that at work, a lot of that stuff, then comes back home with 179 00:09:14,999 --> 00:09:19,139 you, her kids and her her family, they just weren't very 180 00:09:19,139 --> 00:09:21,559 cohesive to the point where they're about to get a divorce, 181 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,719 and they were just, they were done. Everybody was just sick 182 00:09:23,719 --> 00:09:26,779 and tired of everybody essentially, kind of going and 183 00:09:27,499 --> 00:09:30,799 kind of going down that route. I could see it. Now, what happened 184 00:09:30,799 --> 00:09:32,839 with her was, and this is something I think we talked 185 00:09:32,839 --> 00:09:35,959 about in the first podcast. The interview was, you know, what 186 00:09:35,959 --> 00:09:39,439 are you doing for fun? And she looked at me like I was crazy. 187 00:09:39,439 --> 00:09:41,479 Like, what do you mean? What am I doing for fun? Are you not 188 00:09:41,479 --> 00:09:44,319 hearing everything that going on? And you know, she got a 189 00:09:44,319 --> 00:09:47,079 little frustrated, and I asked her, I said, you know, bu 190 00:09:47,079 --> 00:09:49,119 school, I can ask you a difficult question. And she 191 00:09:49,119 --> 00:09:53,979 said, Yeah. And I said, What are you doing for fun? And she got 192 00:09:53,979 --> 00:09:59,199 so frustrated, to say the least, and we had a little heated 193 00:09:59,199 --> 00:10:02,939 conversation. It, but I stuck with it. And what, you know, we 194 00:10:02,939 --> 00:10:06,779 kind of came to and what she really Ahad was she stopped 195 00:10:06,779 --> 00:10:11,579 having fun. She stopped pressing pause on hitting the brakes on 196 00:10:11,579 --> 00:10:13,919 some things she really did need to do, or some looking at things 197 00:10:13,919 --> 00:10:16,559 from different perspective. And it was having that fun. Fun is 198 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,439 underrated. They don't You don't realize that when things get 199 00:10:19,439 --> 00:10:22,339 tough, fun is the first thing to go, but it needs to be the first 200 00:10:22,339 --> 00:10:25,879 thing that stays. By giving yourself that break of fun, by 201 00:10:25,879 --> 00:10:28,399 giving you that relief, that break, no matter what it may be. 202 00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:31,159 And we started off with something simple, 30 minutes, 203 00:10:31,159 --> 00:10:33,859 just 30 minutes in an entire seven day week. I don't want to 204 00:10:33,859 --> 00:10:36,499 hear that you don't have the time. You do have the time. You 205 00:10:36,499 --> 00:10:39,199 have 30 minutes. If you have Netflix and you're watching 206 00:10:39,199 --> 00:10:42,799 Netflix every night, you got 30 minutes to have some fun. But 207 00:10:42,799 --> 00:10:45,399 with this lady in particular, I mean, we laugh about it now. We 208 00:10:45,399 --> 00:10:49,899 laughed about at the time now then, but um, we gave her that 209 00:10:49,899 --> 00:10:52,359 space that she could think. And you mentioned creativity, where 210 00:10:52,359 --> 00:10:54,759 she could be more creative with the way she was, kind of doing 211 00:10:54,759 --> 00:10:58,479 things and executed be creative with her approach when. And 212 00:10:58,479 --> 00:11:01,799 that's going to get off topic here. Like we all know that 213 00:11:01,799 --> 00:11:04,259 there's going to be prejudices. No matter where you are in this 214 00:11:04,259 --> 00:11:06,839 world, they might not like you because the way your hair looks. 215 00:11:06,839 --> 00:11:09,059 People might not like you because you were a sweater. 216 00:11:09,299 --> 00:11:11,699 There's prejudices, but we got to be creative with our 217 00:11:11,699 --> 00:11:14,459 approaches. Now, by you giving yourself that space to see 218 00:11:14,459 --> 00:11:17,939 things differently about what you can do versus what's wrong, 219 00:11:18,059 --> 00:11:20,719 you start moving better. You start moving faster. You start 220 00:11:20,719 --> 00:11:24,379 thinking more than the people who are trying to keep you down 221 00:11:24,379 --> 00:11:27,559 or keep you away from certain things. But that all started 222 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,559 with her giving herself some more space. You know, I'm not a 223 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,759 big fan of the fan of the phrase, Choose happy when you're 224 00:11:34,759 --> 00:11:37,279 knee deep in it, when you're covered up with it. There is no 225 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:40,399 choice. You get the sense of, there's not being any other way 226 00:11:40,399 --> 00:11:42,939 out. This is what I have to do. And we start going to get 227 00:11:42,939 --> 00:11:47,859 absolute in our thinking, a better way of, you know, kind of 228 00:11:48,039 --> 00:11:50,799 incorporating my client. And what I'm saying right now is we 229 00:11:50,799 --> 00:11:55,599 have to give yourself the space to see the choices, and the 230 00:11:55,599 --> 00:12:00,719 fastest way to find that space, but it was her, but it's when 231 00:12:00,719 --> 00:12:03,419 you give yourself that space to see the choices, then you can 232 00:12:03,419 --> 00:12:06,419 choose happy, but in tune, you create that space. It's not it's 233 00:12:06,479 --> 00:12:09,479 you don't see it initially. It's there. It's always been there. 234 00:12:09,479 --> 00:12:13,199 You're just not seeing it because you're busy. Yeah, and 235 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,960 Robert Plank: I mean, you're so right that sometimes people will 236 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,620 just not like us, or find a reason not to like us. And I 237 00:12:19,620 --> 00:12:23,180 mean, I think it's human nature to sometimes dwell on on that 238 00:12:23,180 --> 00:12:26,480 one time in when you were eight years old and someone picked on 239 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,700 you, for some reason you're like, Oh, why is that happen? 240 00:12:28,700 --> 00:12:31,040 That's just like that. That's just how it is. But then, you 241 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,920 know you're talking about like, like phrases and sayings, like, 242 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,920 as you were saying that, what came to mind is like, the Don't, 243 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,800 don't, wish you was easier, wish you were better, right? And 244 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,120 sometimes we just have to kind of rise the UK to the occasion, 245 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,880 figure out a way around it, figure out a way to to make it 246 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,780 work and but like you said, it's hard to see that, because 247 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,960 sometimes I hear from physicians things like, they'll say, Well, 248 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,260 I don't start making money until 3pm in the afternoon, right? 249 00:12:56,260 --> 00:12:59,920 They'll say, with with the the cost of the office overhead and 250 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,640 all the stuff to pay. It's like, they don't make money into, 251 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,160 like, the final couple hours of the day. And it's like, well, 252 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,940 that that means sometimes, like, you can't take that last two 253 00:13:08,940 --> 00:13:11,280 hours the day off, because then you'll start losing money. It 254 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,360 seems like it's really easy to get, get stuck in the hamster 255 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,300 wheel. And sometimes they need someone like you, like, kind of 256 00:13:18,300 --> 00:13:21,020 like a voice of authority, because everyone else in their 257 00:13:21,020 --> 00:13:23,240 current inner circle. They're always in it. They're not 258 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,640 listening them. But then you need some kind of like outside 259 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,940 expert to say, Okay, here's here's the simple solution. Have 260 00:13:28,940 --> 00:13:30,980 some fun. I know that you're not listening to the simple 261 00:13:30,980 --> 00:13:33,500 solution, but this is what works. This is what you need to 262 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:33,620 do, 263 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,560 Vernon Brown: right? And it's sometimes, I mean, I never want 264 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:38,660 to again. Come across as flipping like, go have fun. And 265 00:13:38,660 --> 00:13:43,420 that fixes everything. No, what I'm saying, it's just when we 266 00:13:43,420 --> 00:13:46,780 start looking at our problems, we start creating more problems. 267 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,580 And so sometimes back, in a way, changes our perception. And a 268 00:13:51,580 --> 00:13:53,980 big thing here is challenging people's perceptions. And you 269 00:13:53,980 --> 00:13:56,440 just mentioned something that's powerful is oftentimes in 270 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,900 environments, you're surrounded with people who want to talk 271 00:13:58,900 --> 00:14:00,900 about what's wrong. You're surrounded with people talk 272 00:14:00,900 --> 00:14:04,920 about how there's no this way won't work and that way won't 273 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,680 work, and it can literally start becoming your inner voice. And 274 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:10,200 to some degree, I'm not trying to say that some problems aren't 275 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,360 there and they don't need to be acknowledged. However, we need 276 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,700 to figure out what we're going to do about it. Looking at data 277 00:14:14,700 --> 00:14:16,800 is great. There's a point where you do need to look at the 278 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,680 metrics. KPIs, just figure out if you're only making if you 279 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,400 don't start making money to three o'clock. You know, you 280 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,380 know that's important to acknowledge that. However, 281 00:14:24,380 --> 00:14:26,840 that's not the entirety of the that's not the entirety of the 282 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,380 situation. There's more. But yeah, to see it, 283 00:14:31,460 --> 00:14:33,800 Robert Plank: yeah, I agree completely. You have to, like, 284 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,560 acknowledge the problem, but then don't keep on digging 285 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,080 yourself deeper in the problem. Figure out what you can do to 286 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,460 get out of that problem. And it might seem like like a dumb 287 00:14:42,460 --> 00:14:46,720 question to for me to ask you, but when you go and tell people 288 00:14:46,780 --> 00:14:50,080 to have fun, is there a common answer, or is it just a matter 289 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,880 of, like, sport, exercise, some kind of, you know, creativity, 290 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,520 art thing, something with their personality, are the answers 291 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,720 that they come up with about having fun? Is? It like all over 292 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,620 the place, or are there specific things that these kind of, I 293 00:15:04,620 --> 00:15:06,840 don't know, high achievers tend to gravitate to? 294 00:15:07,260 --> 00:15:09,180 Vernon Brown: You know, well, first I got a first reaction. 295 00:15:09,180 --> 00:15:11,400 There's no such thing as a dumb question for me, because it's 296 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,460 something that you don't think about fun. Who says, I want to 297 00:15:14,460 --> 00:15:19,680 go have who says, um, I'm going to do my happy today. No one's 298 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,040 going to say that. You know, most people look at you like 299 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,020 you're crazy. If a seven year old says that though you're 300 00:15:24,020 --> 00:15:26,600 like, okay, cool. But as we get adults, we forget that that's 301 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,880 just as important. So definitely, that's, that's a 302 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,060 powerful question you asked. It's, it's the reason why my 303 00:15:32,060 --> 00:15:35,360 practice is, what's your happy? You know, my happy is gonna be 304 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,700 very different for you, very different for me, than is gonna 305 00:15:37,700 --> 00:15:40,720 be for you. And your happy to be very different than from your 306 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,120 best friend or your neighborhood down the street. We all have 307 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,120 different things that makes us happy. All of us do one of my 308 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,520 happies. And I share this with every audience, every group, 309 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,420 every time is like my happy is going to a grocery store. I love 310 00:15:52,420 --> 00:15:55,420 looking at the labels. I have so much fun with that that's one of 311 00:15:55,420 --> 00:15:58,300 my happies. I mean, I love to cook. I mean, it's just those 312 00:15:58,300 --> 00:16:02,640 things make me happy. So it's a little bit all over the place. 313 00:16:02,700 --> 00:16:04,920 I'll be honest with you some people. I've had one of my 314 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,320 clients, he loves putting together furniture. It's his 315 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,100 thing. He loves it, and he loves going to his garage and 316 00:16:11,100 --> 00:16:13,560 tinkering around. That's one of his habits. That's where he taps 317 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,380 into his creativity. I've had some clients where they just 318 00:16:16,380 --> 00:16:19,320 enjoy fishing. I've had clients where they like rock climbing. 319 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:24,140 I've had clients where ah, big one. What? Something was really 320 00:16:24,140 --> 00:16:29,720 different. It really caught me off guard. No, nothing really 321 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,180 catches me off guard. I guess. No, think about it, but it's 322 00:16:32,540 --> 00:16:35,780 your happy is very unique to you, and if, and then there's a 323 00:16:35,780 --> 00:16:38,360 tip to everyone out there, if you haven't figured out what 324 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,020 makes you happy, that's great, because the next step there is 325 00:16:41,020 --> 00:16:45,100 what can you get curious about? But I've get so many different 326 00:16:45,100 --> 00:16:48,940 things that so many things that makes me, makes people happy, 327 00:16:48,940 --> 00:16:51,040 it's really hard to nail a theme down. 328 00:16:52,300 --> 00:16:55,060 Robert Plank: Okay, fair enough. But as you're kind of explaining 329 00:16:55,060 --> 00:16:57,940 some of those examples there, it kind of ties back into what you 330 00:16:57,940 --> 00:17:02,340 said a couple minutes ago, of like tapping back into the magic 331 00:17:02,340 --> 00:17:05,520 of childhood, right? Like when you were a kid, you were curious 332 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,520 about things, you weren't negative about things, you were 333 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,740 excited about all kinds of things you could do. And then, 334 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,980 as we get become adults, and we get all these responsibilities, 335 00:17:13,980 --> 00:17:17,220 it seems like some of that goes away, and we need to tap back 336 00:17:17,220 --> 00:17:18,360 into that, right? 337 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,960 Vernon Brown: Exactly. I have a workshop. It's how to use the K 338 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,800 ID formula to achieve more happiness and success. And it's 339 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,760 obviously, I'm a little biased, but it's a two hour or four hour 340 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,300 depends on the group, but it's a two hours about tapping into and 341 00:17:32,300 --> 00:17:36,320 really embracing being a kid, everything that you needed to 342 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,860 learn in life. You learn as a kid everything, and as you get 343 00:17:39,860 --> 00:17:43,420 an adult, you let go of so many things, like kids are curious. I 344 00:17:43,420 --> 00:17:48,100 have a four year old son like nothing scares him. He's not 345 00:17:48,100 --> 00:17:53,140 afraid to be curious. He's not afraid to he's not concerned 346 00:17:53,140 --> 00:17:56,560 about people laughing at him. He's not afraid of breaking the 347 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,320 status quo. There is no status quo. This makes me happy. He 348 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,240 goes to it my son, he will hide behind my back and just start 349 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:07,320 saying, like, I'm more powerful. It's fun to him. And as adults, 350 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,800 we got to remember, be curious. Be curious. And that's a lot of 351 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:17,700 some. Large majority of my work is getting people to be a child 352 00:18:17,700 --> 00:18:23,600 with, to be to appreciate the kid that's still in all of us, 353 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,240 to revisit that kid, to sit down with that kid and color with 354 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,320 them. It sounds, you know, like, what? But a lot of it's about 355 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,040 just kind of setting the adult hat down when you need to set it 356 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,360 down, and when it's appropriate to set it down. And just embrace 357 00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:43,000 the curiosity of life. If you can't figure out what makes you 358 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,160 happy, you don't feel like you're curious about anything, 359 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,440 the next thing you can think is say, I will say to someone is, 360 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,280 what did you used to do for fun? Because that's another thing 361 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,180 people forget about. 362 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,900 Robert Plank: Yeah, we were all we're all kids at one point. 363 00:18:55,900 --> 00:18:59,080 It's just a matter just going back to that. Yeah, have a 364 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,500 Vernon Brown: client's business guys. And you know, they all 365 00:19:01,500 --> 00:19:04,020 business guys and gals. They all, you know, very successful. 366 00:19:04,020 --> 00:19:06,420 And then, of course, it's like, I can't find any time for fun. 367 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,180 And I'll ask that question, well, what did you used to do 368 00:19:09,180 --> 00:19:11,880 for fun? And come to find out they wanted to be an 369 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,700 archeologist like Indiana Jones. And then we'll start laughing 370 00:19:14,700 --> 00:19:17,340 about that. And it's like, I totally have forgotten. I'm 371 00:19:17,340 --> 00:19:19,500 like, Okay, now don't you remember? What are you gonna do 372 00:19:19,500 --> 00:19:21,800 about it? Next thing you know, they found out they have these 373 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,800 historical societies in this, in their city, where they can, you 374 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,280 know, go on to local digs or trying to help archive things. 375 00:19:28,340 --> 00:19:32,000 But um, so I kind of digress. I went everywhere with that 376 00:19:32,420 --> 00:19:34,280 Robert Plank: one. But that's good, though. That's like, even 377 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,480 if, even if your your childhood dream was something silly, like 378 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,640 being like, be an astronaut, there are practical modern day 379 00:19:42,820 --> 00:19:46,360 like clubs and there's, there's ways to still tap into, even if 380 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:49,240 it was a silly, crazy dream. Yep, 381 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:51,460 Vernon Brown: there's a way there. I promise you, you're not 382 00:19:51,460 --> 00:19:53,080 the only one. I can promise you. 383 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,080 Robert Plank: Well, cool. Well, you mentioned a few times that 384 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,560 you do these workshops. So are these live streamed in person? 385 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:00,180 What are. These. 386 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,280 Vernon Brown: These are in person, because it's more 387 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,420 powerful. One of my and this is a whole nother subject, but you 388 00:20:06,420 --> 00:20:08,820 know, I'm big on people finding out their superpowers. What you 389 00:20:08,820 --> 00:20:13,080 are you amazing at? And lot of the work that I do is especially 390 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,300 in like in this workshop, you have to figure out what you're 391 00:20:15,300 --> 00:20:17,940 amazing at. And I'm saying all this to say is one of my 392 00:20:17,940 --> 00:20:20,400 superpowers, what I'm amazing at is my presence. I have a very 393 00:20:20,460 --> 00:20:23,060 strong presence. And I'm not saying I'm better than anybody, 394 00:20:23,060 --> 00:20:26,060 or I'm perfect. I'm just saying, hey, look, I have a very strong 395 00:20:26,060 --> 00:20:29,600 presence, and I'm a funny guy. I know that. So when I love doing 396 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,200 workshops in person, because it makes people listen, it makes 397 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,340 people connect. It gives a sense of immediacy. But yeah, we do 398 00:20:37,340 --> 00:20:40,420 those in person, we have a fantastic time. I talk about 399 00:20:40,420 --> 00:20:44,200 very serious subjects, but we but we laugh about it, and you 400 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,700 walk out of there with a plan, a written, actual plan. Yeah, 401 00:20:50,140 --> 00:20:53,080 Robert Plank: and are these in one location or all over the 402 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,940 country? Or where do these take place? 403 00:20:55,300 --> 00:20:58,780 Vernon Brown: Generally, doing it, not even generally, they 404 00:20:58,780 --> 00:21:01,080 tend to bring me into the corporation or their 405 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,420 organization, or to their business into like a conference 406 00:21:03,420 --> 00:21:06,900 room, like next year, it's I got a few of them up next year, but 407 00:21:07,140 --> 00:21:09,780 I'll be flying a little bit different places across the US, 408 00:21:09,780 --> 00:21:11,760 just doing this workshops for those companies. 409 00:21:12,780 --> 00:21:14,940 Robert Plank: Fantastic. And so if people say, you know, a lot 410 00:21:14,940 --> 00:21:17,520 of this makes sense, and I want to take the next step, and maybe 411 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,040 it's some organization that wants to to bring you, want to 412 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,880 do one of these workshops, or maybe it's like an individual 413 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,060 entrepreneur or someone who just wants more information. Where's 414 00:21:26,060 --> 00:21:28,640 the good stuff at where? What sort of websites? URL should we 415 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:29,960 we be going to at this point 416 00:21:30,860 --> 00:21:33,380 Vernon Brown: in terms of like, for like, my website or other 417 00:21:33,380 --> 00:21:34,160 people's websites, 418 00:21:34,220 --> 00:21:37,160 Robert Plank: your your website, where find find out about you, 419 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,160 where you can learn some free stuff or buy some paid stuff. 420 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,580 Where should we go? Um, first 421 00:21:42,580 --> 00:21:44,200 Vernon Brown: up, it's my website. What's your happy.com 422 00:21:44,740 --> 00:21:51,520 and it's happy with an I think you can it's W, H, A, T, S, Y, 423 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:56,680 o, u, r, H, A, P, P, I sorry. I kind of brain fog. Another place 424 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,680 that I'm really, really active at is LinkedIn. I posted daily 425 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,680 on LinkedIn. I post videos that you happiness tips. I Yeah, 426 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,680 LinkedIn is probably the most active platform that I'm on. I 427 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,220 am on Facebook and Instagram. On facebook.com, forward slash, 428 00:22:11,220 --> 00:22:15,000 what's your happy? And Instagram, what's your happy as 429 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:20,220 well. But I'm very much at I'm very present on LinkedIn, 430 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,320 Robert Plank: fantastic. So the places to go there are, what's 431 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:29,300 your happy.com go to LinkedIn and search Vernon Brown and add 432 00:22:29,300 --> 00:22:32,540 him there and follow him there. And something that that really 433 00:22:32,540 --> 00:22:36,260 sat with me and stuck to me, it was in a conversation here, was 434 00:22:36,260 --> 00:22:39,620 just that whole concept of if you're, if you're going to be, 435 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,860 if you're focusing on those problems, focusing on the 436 00:22:41,860 --> 00:22:44,740 negativity, that's just going to lead to more of that. And it 437 00:22:44,740 --> 00:22:48,100 tends to be that if we're if we're just unhappy, or we're 438 00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:51,520 stuck in a rut, then we might be surrounding ourselves with all 439 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,580 these negative, unhappy people. You go on Facebook, it's easy to 440 00:22:54,580 --> 00:22:57,340 find the negativity people complain about, politic, 441 00:22:57,340 --> 00:23:02,460 politics, economy, environment, whatever. Why not proactively? 442 00:23:02,460 --> 00:23:04,980 Go and chase some of that happiness yourself. Chase some 443 00:23:04,980 --> 00:23:08,640 of that positivity. And you can begin by adding Mr. Vernon brown 444 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,220 on LinkedIn. That way you can see his daily posts. Go to 445 00:23:11,220 --> 00:23:14,100 Facebook, what you're happy, go to Instagram, what you're happy, 446 00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:17,640 and then go to what's your happy.com that's happy with an I 447 00:23:17,700 --> 00:23:21,140 go to that website, poke around and see what you can find out 448 00:23:21,140 --> 00:23:24,260 there, see if anything makes sense, resonate with you, and 449 00:23:24,620 --> 00:23:29,120 begin taking those baby steps towards rediscovering that your, 450 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:32,840 their your inner kid, and in taking a break every once in a 451 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,780 while, having fun. That way you can be the best that you can be, 452 00:23:35,780 --> 00:23:39,080 and that way you don't get yet burned out and and just you 453 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,980 don't, you avoid that downward spiral, and instead, things 454 00:23:41,980 --> 00:23:45,580 become better and better for you have that upward spiral. So go 455 00:23:45,580 --> 00:23:49,000 to what's your happy.com and we'll see you there. And thanks 456 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,940 so much Vernon for telling us what we need to know whether 457 00:23:51,940 --> 00:23:54,580 we're in healthcare or not in healthcare, just giving us that 458 00:23:54,580 --> 00:23:58,000 little dose of inspiration happiness. I really appreciate 459 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:58,180 it, 460 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,160 Vernon Brown: dude. You're very welcome. Thank you for having me 461 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,380 again. I appreciate everyone for listening. 462 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:08,640 Robert Plank: Fantastic. This is Robert plank, and would you like 463 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,420 to be a guest on the program? Do you have an idea for a future 464 00:24:12,420 --> 00:24:15,960 episode? Or do you just want to tell us how we're doing? 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