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Robert Plank: Marketer of the
day. Episode 748, live longer,

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happier and healthier by
improving your posture with Tana

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hope. Hey everyone, and welcome
back to the marketer of the day

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podcast. We are here with Tana C
hope. From Tana C hope.com and

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she has a series of books called
the body operator User's Guide.

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And after so many decades on
Earth, she realized that she was

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using bad posture, the wrong way
of exercising, eating unhealthy

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food. And we all experience this
problem in one way or another.

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We all would love to be happier,
healthier, live longer, more

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fulfilled. We were going to be
talking about all that and more

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so. Tana, glad to be talking to
you. Thank

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Tana Hope: you. Glad to be
talking to you too. Finally,

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Robert Plank: finally, but I see
you around. I've seen you in

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person. I've seen you in
different online Toastmasters

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meetings. I think I even saw a
meeting that I was not at but I

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just, I saw you in the
screenshot somewhere. So, so you

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get around, so see, you have a
lot of energy, you find the time

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to do what needs to be done.
What's your secret? What do you

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think we're all missing here?

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Tana Hope: Well, before, I would
say before, meaning a few years

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ago, I was just living. I never
paid attention to my body. You

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know what I mean? I typically
just busy doing my things, but

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never paid attention to what
goes inside of me and how I am

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operating my body. But two,
three years ago, I went to a

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class, which I thought was a Tai
Chi class, and the teacher, who

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is also perfect pastor, teacher,
was teaching the group of

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students how to walk, how to
sit, how to go upstairs. Those

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are basic functions of life. And
I was stunned, because I thought

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I was going to learn this fancy
Tai Chi moves, and these older

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people are learning the basic
functions of life, and it made

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such an impression on me, so I
started following him around and

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taking different courses about
perfect posture. And he talks a

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lot about how to use your body
in this earth against the

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gravity, or with the gravity.
And I never paid attention that,

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oh, there is gravity, and it is
affecting every cells of our

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body. It just never occurred to
me. So I started studying about

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how body works, not just how to
use our physical body, but how

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to nourish it. How do we use it
every single day properly?

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Because just like a car, if you
abuse your car, it's going to

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break down fast, and you are
going to experience a lot of

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problems, and maybe you will not
have the most optimum

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performance out of the car. Just
like that, our body is the same

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way if we abuse, put in the bad
fuel and operator, you know,

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using the car body roughly, and
eventually that wear and tear

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will show up, whether it's your
body or your car, and I never

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know that repeatedly done simple
tasks such as walking or even

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sleeping. How many hours we all
sleep seven, eight hours a day.

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How you sleep, how you walk, if
you do that repeatedly, wrong

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way, it's going to have a severe
cost on on you. Think about all

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those people who have to have
surgery because of the disc or

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joint problems, think about the
money and pain that they have to

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suffer later on because the body
was used in wrong way. And I

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realized, wow, if we correct our
abuse to our body system now

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earlier, the better we could
spare so much pain and cost

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later on in life. So I started.
Is studying different ways to

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correct how modern people are
abusing our body in the wrong

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way. For example, our our body
is designed to move or human

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history until about, I don't
know, 3040, years ago, we did

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not have a computer that we are
glued to at the desk all the

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time. We had to move our body to
perform daily functions. But now

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we are just sitting around and
not moving around, and that is

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not how our body is designed.
And now more and more problems

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are manifesting in in our daily
life, in our body. Why is there

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so many chiropractors,
technicians? Tech technicians,

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and why is there so many massage
therapists and so on? Because so

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many abusers are everywhere.
When I go for a walk in the

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park, I look around. I pay
attention to what kind of shoes

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they are wearing, because every
little inch that you are raised

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in the wrong way, gravity will
affect you accordingly. And most

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of us wear some sort of heels
with the shoes, and so that's

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too hard. It's very damaging to
our body system, because gravity

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does not discriminate any part
of our body. It's just pulling

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everything down straight. But
how many of us are aware of that

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severe impact of the gravity,
not too many. I never did

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either, until, you know, fairly
recently, to three years ago,

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and now I am very aware of how I
am holding my body is affecting

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my entire system. Because if, if
my neck is bent, you see that's

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going to affect the supply and
discharge of the toxic from

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brain. Your brain cannot
function without supply from

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your body and without oxygen. It
cannot metabolize anything to

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use, so therefore cannot
function properly either. But

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how many us? How many of us hold
our neck not straight, but all

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in bent way? That is restricting
the supply, you see, so just by

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paying attention, I just
realized I could help people a

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lot, whether it's a daily
performance or daily functions

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or saving from future pain and
cost. So I started collecting

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different small exercises you
can do, the ways to save your

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vision, the ways to improve your
brain function, body function. I

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just started taking lectures.
I'm taking bunch of courses

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right now from this professor in
Korea, and I'm also digging into

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ancient ways to correct our
body, right things to eat, just

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lot of simple things in a way.
Who pays attention to how we

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walk each step? You see what I'm
saying. So lot of little things

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that I have been collecting is
becoming now quite a bit, so I

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decide to turn into a book so I
can offer to people to learn

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simple ways, very obvious,
obvious Ways, in a way to use

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our body in correct way so we
can perform at most optimal way

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that we are designed for and
enjoy your life instead of

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suffering from back pains, knee
pains, back pains, joy or things

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like. Like that. So that's what
I've been doing a lot last

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couple of years, yeah,
collecting all these different

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ways to improve our body
operation, to produce optimal

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results.

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Robert Plank: Okay, and, and I
really like your analogy of the

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car because, and because,
eventually, eventually, because

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you said that it's the the hero
was eventually, right? You can,

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you can drive your car like crap
right now today, and it'll get

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you by today, right? You can get
by without changing the oil, and

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you can drive to where you need
to go. But eventually, someday,

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that car will break down.
Eventually there will be a big

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repair bill. You can say, I
won't replace the tires until

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next thing you know, things are
really bad, and now you have a

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$5,000 bill. So that, I think
that analogy is something that

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we can all understand, that it's
easy to fall into those bad

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habits and just get through the
one day, one day, one day, and

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then next thing you know, you
have all the bad habits in the

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world, right? Not you said, not
eating right, not sleeping

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right, not walking, right. And
what was reassuring about what

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you said is that you use that
word habits that it doesn't you

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don't have to do something
crazy, like sometimes you hear

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people saying, throw out
everything and get all vegan,

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organic, drink 10 gallons of
water per day. And I think a lot

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of us get overwhelmed with
things like the New Year's

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resolution or the birthday
coming up, things like that, and

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we tend to over correct and then
self sabotage. So I really like

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a lot how this book that you
mentioned, you said that he has

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a lot of obvious advice, but
there's so many perfect desk

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potato remedies for desk potato
syndrome. We it's, it's easy. I

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mean, there are a lot of obvious
things, but, I mean, we're so

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many organs in our body, so many
things that we're just not aware

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of, because we're going through
the day on an autopilot. And

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like you said, this is a
universal problem, because a lot

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of us are working from home or
working in an office, working at

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a computer, and it's easy to to
let these things go by the

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wayside. And so it's also
interesting that this class that

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you that began all of this was
they were like reteaching all

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the things that we all thought
that we learned when we were

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kids right how to walk and how
to do all these things. And in

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particular, what interests me,
as you said, that some of us are

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not sleeping correctly, and at
the moment, you know, I have a

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new baby, so I'm getting the
sleep where I can but then also

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listening to my body and
realizing that, okay, if I've

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had too much scattered sleep or
too many cat naps, I need to

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have a big chunk of sleep. I
need to get four hours in. Need

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to get eight hours in. So what
do you think we're all missing

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when it comes to sleep? And is
there an easy fix? Just to give

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us a taste of what's in the book
and easy fix your sleep?

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Tana Hope: Well, first of all,
it is important to know your

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body, for your body to heal and
to get proper supplies. The flow

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is very important, 70% or even
little more than 70% of your

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body is liquid, state, right?
Water, blood, lymphatic fluids.

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It's all fluid, just like a
garden hose. If there's a kinks,

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it will not flow well. So
whether you are sleeping or

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walking or sitting, be aware of
the flow. How is your body

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liquid flowing? It doesn't
matter which, which body liquid,

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all of it, it needs to function
properly. But if we are sleeping

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with high pillow. For example,
our neck is bent. In your neck,

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there are so many pipelines from
your command center, your brain,

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to your body, and from your
body, all those traffic, whether

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it's a nerve signals or nutrient
supplies or wastes removal is

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all in fluid state. So whatever
the position that provides the

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most flow, basically, is a good
posture. So for sleeping, since

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we are sleeping about 1/3 of our
life. It is very, very important

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make sure that your neck is not
bent, your head is not bent, so

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that it restrict the flow. I
used to like high pillows. Now I

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sometimes sleep with no pillow.
Sometimes I roll. Up towers and

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just put it behind my leg. That
actually seems to be the best I

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at first. I lowered my pillow,
and that's fine. That's pretty

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good, but I'm experimenting many
different ways to improve our

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flow and also within the good
gravity line. So remember two

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things for your body to heal and
function, you have to have a

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good flow of all your body
liquids, especially blood, and

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being within the gravity line
your head is about 1/10 of your

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body weight. When I first met my
perfect posture teacher, the

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very first thing he corrected me
was my head position. I'm five

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two, and I live in United
States, bunch with so many tall

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people, I got used to looking up
just to talk to them, and so my

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net position was this way. That
was my normal. I thought so. He

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said he pushed my head this way.
That's the proper way to hold

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your head. Basically, when I do
that, look at all the bends

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that's happening back here. So
when you do that, the blood vein

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in your back will have a full
flow to and from your brain and

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body. You see the difference. So
when you look at people in

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Africa carrying water, for
example, your head is just this

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way straight. You cannot, you
cannot move water like this long

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way, because that's against the
gravity line. You see, you see,

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I'm saying, so it has to be like
this. In fact, walking around

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with the books or some object on
your head, holding your head

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straight, is one of the exercise
recommended by NASA. See, I'm

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digging around. I'm looking at
all kinds of you know, ways to

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improve our daily doings, to
improve the flow and to be

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within the gravity line. So,
yeah, sleeping, use low pillow

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or no pillow, but just support
your neck so your head will be

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in right position for the best
flow possible. That's why, and

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when hold your head straight.
Very important, because 80% 40%

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40% of your supply is right
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So holding your head upright is
very important, extremely

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important, for your brain to
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Robert Plank: A lot of things
for us to be thinking about and

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noticing here. So you're saying,
change up. Change it up with the

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pillow. Try to, if we're, if
we're super propped up, use less

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pillows. Try to be low or no
pillow. That way we have that,

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that straight gravity line. And
now I'm suddenly extremely aware

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of where my head is. I find that
many times I I fall into the

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habit of, like, I have two
computer monitors. I like the

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main one and the one I'm looking
at, and I use both. And I find

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that sometimes I have the
problem of being not looking

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quite dead center. And that ends
up catching up to me, because

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sometimes, like, then if I'm
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someone, I'm like, kind of
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slightly, so you're and then
also you make me think about, I

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have an uncle who was a mail
carrier, work for the Postal

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Service, and he carried a big,
heavy mail bag on his shoulder,

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and then the older he got, the
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center there. And I thought, why
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the other shoulder? That way you
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one of those examples of slowly
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becomes more and more and so
what else do you think we're

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missing out as far as like
always being in the rush to to

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fit everything into the day and
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productive, it's sometimes
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balance of you know, slowing
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things done. So I mean, do you
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that? As far as finding time to
relax but also being super

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Tana Hope: I am failing in that
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have many. A different kind of
interest. So I am involved in

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many different activities. So
yeah, modern life, that's very

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hard to do. People in all the
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computer, they did not have
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all those activities were not in
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to deal with it. I think just
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you are using each time and your
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important. I mean, I try to
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the calendar so I can try to fit
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I am failing. I'm not sure on
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Robert Plank: what, what I'm
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your answer is be aware and at
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have the feedback and realize if
loading up the calendar is not

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working for you, and maybe like
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having that awareness, look at
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at like if some someone like you
who's curious about all these

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different subjects, look at what
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at where you do see results and
that we won't always figure it

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out. It's just a day by day
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cut ourselves a break, because,
like you said this, this is all

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new to human history, right? For
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just dig a hole or get the water
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But now we're expected to answer
all the text messages and show

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up on Zoom and and do all these
computer things. So maybe we

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should all cut ourselves a break
and then just examine what we

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did and what came back and just
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Tana Hope: Yeah, just pay
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things to do each day, but also
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using body. I am extremely aware
each time, how I am holding my

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body, because how we how you are
each moment eventually will

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affect how you are at the end of
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well you have functioned to your
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having good posture will help
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accomplish more because you are
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to your brain, your command
center to do whatever you have

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to do each Day. So be aware most
people are not aware of how your

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body is aligned and it is being
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aware of those two facts helped
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actually. And so many people ask
me, How do you do all you do?

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Because I do a lot of things,
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use your body, right? So either
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that it is designed for, many of
us are functioning at much less

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percentage than we are designed
for, just because we are working

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down, if we are sitting for long
period of time, that's like

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garden hose being bent for long
time. You see the flow will be

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reduced because it's bent to a
degree, and therefore your

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performance will be less than it
could have been, right? So just

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be aware, how am I flowing? How
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force? That just that simple
awareness alone will help you do

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more each day and feel better at
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Robert Plank: Okay, I like the
way you're putting that, that we

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are holding ourselves back. We
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Potential just by missing out on
on some of the these posture

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things. And it's easy to look at
it as a waste of time and say, I

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don't have time for that. I'm
too busy being a hunch over up

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at the computer. But like we've
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preventative maintenance. This
is to prevent a catastrophe down

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the road, and even if maybe
we're getting older, getting up

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in the years, this is a good way
to stop things from getting

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worse, to unkink that. Garden
hose, so to speak. And in these

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last few minutes of our
conversation here, can you tell

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us where to find more about you?
If people like what they heard

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so far and they want to continue
getting some of this posture,

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health, longevity information
from you, where can they find

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you? Where's your website and
where can they get some of these

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excellent books you're coming
out with.

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Tana Hope: My website is Tana,
C, hope.com, which is T, A, N,

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A, C, H, O, P, e.com, it is
still in construction mode. I

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will be adding lot more to it as
time goes on. And this book when

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it's published, I keep adding
more so it keeps getting

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delayed, because the more I
learn about how we can improve

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using our body, I just keep
adding more and more so that

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information will be available at
the website, and I'll make a

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press release and so on to let
people know that it is

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available. And by reading, by
knowing simple techniques, I

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think people will enjoy their
life so much better and do a lot

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more each day. Just I like it,
just how to walk properly, how

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to hold your head right, how to
sleep right, how to sit, and

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just knowing the simple
techniques I like to help people

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with one exercise. We are
sitting a lot and we are bent

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our head forward a lot, and
there's one simple technique

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that I like the best, which is
put your hand together like a

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praying and put it to your side
as far as you can and lower as

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low as you can, lower your hand,
lower your hand. Yeah, low, low,

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low, Go. Keep going, keep going
low, and then bend your back,

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bend your neck. Yes, so many
exercises, they just say like,

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bend your back, but by putting
your hand down and and bend your

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neck, it not only corrects your
bent neck, which causes a total

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leg eventually, but your back
also. So by doing that simple

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exercise, you can really correct
what went wrong with your body,

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and it's something that you can
do easily while you are sitting,

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just once in a while, just
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Robert Plank: That's good. I
think I felt something crack

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when I did that, but it felt
felt better than before I had

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done that. So I think we're on
the right track here. So the

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place to go is T, A, N, A, C, H,
O, P, e.com, to stay up to date

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on the posture and good habits
that we need to maintain and and

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it's great how we can do some of
these things while we're at our

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desk. So it's not like we have
to go and buy a home gym or run

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10 miles a day. These are all
easy things that we can do. And

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when the book is live, then we
can find that at the website as

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well. And what is the title of
that? Again, remedies for

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Tana Hope: remedies for desk
potato syndrome.

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Robert Plank: Okay, remedies for
desk potato syndrome. You can

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find that at Tana C hope.com any
final parting words before we

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wrap up today?

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Tana Hope: Yes, remember what we
do the most affects us the most.

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What we do the most like
breathing, standing, walking,

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sitting, sleeping, those basic
body functions that we do every

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day, so much needs to be learned
proper way, so therefore you can

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perform at your best. What you
do the most affects you the

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most, so do it right?

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Robert Plank: Subscribe to us
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