1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,640 Robert Plank: Wow. Hey everyone. And welcome back to the marketer 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,240 of the day podcast. We are here with return guest Casey Stubbs, 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,600 and Casey is going to be talking about how you can fulfill your 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,500 financial dreams, achieve financial freedom, get cash 5 00:00:13,500 --> 00:00:16,260 flow, trade to your heart's content. Casey, glad to have you 6 00:00:16,260 --> 00:00:17,280 back. How have things been? 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,980 Casey Stubbs: Things have been great. Robert, good to be back. 8 00:00:20,580 --> 00:00:22,940 Robert Plank: Glad to have you back. And so now that we're all 9 00:00:22,940 --> 00:00:26,300 caught up, it feels like we just saw each other just yesterday. 10 00:00:26,420 --> 00:00:30,380 What has been your passion, your focus the last six or 12 months? 11 00:00:30,380 --> 00:00:31,520 What has you fired up? 12 00:00:32,659 --> 00:00:36,619 Casey Stubbs: Well, in the last 12 months, I've been really 13 00:00:36,619 --> 00:00:43,299 focusing on just improving my trading strategies and fine 14 00:00:43,299 --> 00:00:49,419 tuning my methods to increase results for clients. And I know 15 00:00:49,419 --> 00:00:52,479 this is the marketer of the day. So on the marketing side, I've 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:57,159 been really working on my SEO to get more search traffic from 17 00:00:57,159 --> 00:00:57,639 Google. 18 00:00:58,780 --> 00:01:00,780 Robert Plank: Okay, great. So, and there's always, like, 19 00:01:00,780 --> 00:01:04,440 multiple angles to hit things from, right? There's like, what 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,320 do you do with your money after you you've made all your money 21 00:01:07,320 --> 00:01:09,780 from Marketing, and how do you keep on growing that? But then 22 00:01:09,780 --> 00:01:14,220 also, also thinking about outside the box ways to kind of 23 00:01:14,220 --> 00:01:17,340 get that that income stream working and that cash flow 24 00:01:17,340 --> 00:01:20,420 going. And so when you say trading, like, what? What are we 25 00:01:20,420 --> 00:01:21,980 talking about here? We're talking about, like, 26 00:01:21,980 --> 00:01:25,940 cryptocurrency options. What are you trading? And what's your 27 00:01:25,940 --> 00:01:26,300 favorite? 28 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,640 Casey Stubbs: So I trade stocks and also crypto, and the 29 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,000 strategy is exactly the same, and it's really super easy. I 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,320 mean, it's just so easy. Well, the coming from me, who've been 31 00:01:39,320 --> 00:01:42,340 doing it for 25 years, but really it's not that difficult. 32 00:01:43,060 --> 00:01:46,000 I look for something that's trending upwards, so I look for 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,300 200 period moving average. I apply that to a chart, any type 34 00:01:49,300 --> 00:01:52,540 of charting platform, no matter what stock platform you're 35 00:01:52,540 --> 00:01:55,360 using, with the exception of Robinhood, because they don't 36 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,360 really have a lot of charting tools. But anything other than 37 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,920 that, you just apply 200 period moving average. And then if the 38 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:08,640 market is above that, then you're looking for patterns to 39 00:02:08,640 --> 00:02:13,500 buy. And you do the same thing in cryptos or in stocks. Okay? 40 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,340 Robert Plank: And so, like, what kind of time commitment is this? 41 00:02:17,340 --> 00:02:20,360 Is this like, do you look at the these, like, 200 period Moving 42 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,960 Averages like all day, every day. Is it like a morning and 43 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,000 evening thing? What's kind of your routine here? 44 00:02:26,180 --> 00:02:28,340 Casey Stubbs: Yeah, I'm actually a little bit too busy to be 45 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,240 looking at charts all the time. There are some people that do it 46 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,880 all day. They're like, in out, in out, in out, but that my 47 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,820 brain just couldn't handle that. So I do about 20 minutes a day, 48 00:02:37,820 --> 00:02:42,700 right at the end of the market close, which is about 330 49 00:02:43,060 --> 00:02:47,320 eastern time for me, so about 1520 minutes a day. Just run a 50 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,500 scan, look at my charts, look at what's happening, get new 51 00:02:50,500 --> 00:02:53,200 positions, close the old ones, and you're 52 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,260 Robert Plank: saying that this works for pretty much like, like 53 00:02:56,260 --> 00:02:59,380 you said, like any stock or any cryptocurrency. If you're 54 00:02:59,380 --> 00:03:02,520 looking at like, Ethereum or ripple or something. It's just 55 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,480 like the use look at the look for the similar kind of chart 56 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:07,500 patterns, right? 57 00:03:07,500 --> 00:03:10,680 Casey Stubbs: And so a couple years ago, I was trading Bitcoin 58 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,780 when it made a big run up, and then it was just not really 59 00:03:15,780 --> 00:03:19,320 doing much for a while. So I just stayed off of it. And same 60 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,940 with eth. So I just stayed out of that for for whenever it was 61 00:03:22,940 --> 00:03:27,080 going sideways and not moving. And then just recently, this 62 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,440 year, it picked up again. So we started to get back in and that 63 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:35,120 kind of helps you avoid the big losers and sideways markets and 64 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:39,080 only get in the markets that are actually moving. And so you 65 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,620 know, if this things, it looks like it's starting to turn 66 00:03:41,620 --> 00:03:45,940 around again. And I have recently removed my bitcoin 67 00:03:45,940 --> 00:03:49,120 positions, and so I'm going to be watching them and see what 68 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,200 happens if it's going to start dropping again, like it did in 69 00:03:53,260 --> 00:03:57,040 2018 when it made that big move and then just crashed for two 70 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,900 years. Or if it's, this is just a pause for another big move up. 71 00:04:01,740 --> 00:04:03,660 Robert Plank: And how do you kind of, kind of fight that 72 00:04:03,660 --> 00:04:07,320 phone? Because it seems like it's, it's really tempting to 73 00:04:07,380 --> 00:04:09,720 say, like, Well, I'm gonna pull out a Bitcoin, and then you see 74 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,600 it going up and up. And it's, it must be, like, must be so 75 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,300 tempting to just, like, jump in really quick and then, but then 76 00:04:15,300 --> 00:04:17,580 it's, it always seems like as soon as you jump back in, then 77 00:04:17,580 --> 00:04:20,480 these things fall back down. So do you have to deal with any of 78 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,960 this, like kind of emotional rigmarole with with all of this, 79 00:04:24,140 --> 00:04:27,800 Casey Stubbs: yeah, if that's just an experience thing, 80 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,520 because what you don't realize is that you're afraid that it's 81 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,260 gonna take off without you. There's a real valid fear there. 82 00:04:36,260 --> 00:04:39,440 But what happens is, if you hold on and it tanks, then you end up 83 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,440 holding the bag. And when you hold the bag enough times, and 84 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:50,200 you experience that, then you realize that it's worth just 85 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,520 taking your profits, being happy and thankful with what you got, 86 00:04:54,700 --> 00:04:57,940 and having the understanding that there's going to be another 87 00:04:58,060 --> 00:05:02,700 opportunity at another time. I'm in another in another deal 88 00:05:02,820 --> 00:05:07,620 somewhere, so just be thankful with what you got. It's 89 00:05:07,620 --> 00:05:09,840 Robert Plank: almost like, like, touching a hot stove, right? 90 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:13,140 Like, like, if you haven't ever touched a hot stove, like, it 91 00:05:13,140 --> 00:05:16,740 doesn't really seem like a real problem. But then once, once you 92 00:05:16,740 --> 00:05:19,200 get burned, the one time, you're like, Okay, next time, I'll 93 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,500 really think this through. And instead of just acting, I'll 94 00:05:21,500 --> 00:05:24,380 say, You know what, there's a better way to do this. I can, 95 00:05:24,500 --> 00:05:27,200 you know, go, go and grab the oven MIT, or I can wait until 96 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:31,520 the the pot cools down a little bit before for handling it. And 97 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,580 so, I mean, have you, Has everything been, like, really, 98 00:05:34,580 --> 00:05:37,520 really easy and simple? Or have you have any kind of like, like, 99 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,560 setbacks or difficulties with any of this lately? Uh, lately, 100 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,860 Casey Stubbs: I've been doing pretty well, but there's still 101 00:05:44,860 --> 00:05:49,120 always challenges. One of my biggest challenges right now is 102 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:55,540 just learning to focus, because I'm a an entrepreneur, I'm a 103 00:05:55,540 --> 00:05:59,860 trader, but I'm an entrepreneur, and so I have the just really 104 00:05:59,860 --> 00:06:03,060 big eyes to see opportunities, and there's never an opportunity 105 00:06:03,060 --> 00:06:05,400 that I didn't fall in love with. And so usually when I'm 106 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,160 launching a business, I'm like, Oh, I can do 10 things at a 107 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,060 time, and I just spread myself out too thin. And so that's been 108 00:06:12,060 --> 00:06:14,760 the biggest step back, is starting too many things and 109 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,880 then just getting knocked down because I wasn't focused enough. 110 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:22,820 And so now I'm being more disciplined in laser targeting 111 00:06:22,820 --> 00:06:28,400 my efforts and really putting all of my momentum in one thing, 112 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,840 until that thing is really where I want it to be, and then I move 113 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:35,600 on to the next, rather than to try to spread my time out. 114 00:06:36,620 --> 00:06:40,100 Robert Plank: And what is that one thing these so 115 00:06:40,100 --> 00:06:45,460 Casey Stubbs: right now, the one thing is to really work on my 116 00:06:45,460 --> 00:06:51,460 product community aspect, which is a trading product to help our 117 00:06:51,460 --> 00:06:56,380 customers. And so I am just focusing every day, improving 118 00:06:56,380 --> 00:06:59,020 the communication to our customers, improving the 119 00:06:59,020 --> 00:07:06,120 systems, improving the way that we onboard customers, all of 120 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,660 those things, until I really feel like it's exactly where it 121 00:07:09,660 --> 00:07:11,520 needs to be, and 122 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,260 Robert Plank: it seems like every day there's just kind of 123 00:07:13,260 --> 00:07:16,800 like that incremental progress of just kind of like, like you 124 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,340 said, focusing, but also maybe revisiting and being like, well, 125 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,200 is This the best it can be, and is the onboarding all working? 126 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,560 And so you mentioned like this, this new like product, in this 127 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,140 new community. Can you tell us about that? What you have going 128 00:07:30,140 --> 00:07:30,440 on? 129 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,960 Casey Stubbs: Yeah, so I have, I like to work with a lot of 130 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,300 people too. You know, one of the things when I'm focusing, I'm 131 00:07:38,300 --> 00:07:41,920 thinking about I always ask myself this question. I said, 132 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,000 Who can I activate to help me with my goals? Right? And that 133 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,280 might seem a little strange, but when you think about it, 134 00:07:48,340 --> 00:07:53,080 different people have different giftings, and so I'm telling you 135 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,140 all of that just to say I'm I'm activating a really good friend 136 00:07:56,140 --> 00:08:00,100 of mine named Tim, and he's been trading with me for about 10 137 00:08:00,100 --> 00:08:05,580 years, and he is been on you on my YouTube channel, just posting 138 00:08:05,580 --> 00:08:08,400 his trades, and he's been documenting them. And he just 139 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,680 said, Hey, I just wanted to let you know. Here's the spreadsheet 140 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,960 of all the trades that we've been doing over the last three 141 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,320 years. And I looked at it, and his performance was really good. 142 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,420 He doubled his account with all of the trades, and he actually 143 00:08:20,420 --> 00:08:24,020 posted each one of those on YouTube before he even took the 144 00:08:24,020 --> 00:08:27,140 trade. So there was, like, documented proof that he did 145 00:08:27,140 --> 00:08:29,660 every single trade, which is a lot different than a lot of 146 00:08:29,660 --> 00:08:31,760 other people, where you don't know what, there's no 147 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,180 transparency. So I'm like, Oh, wow, Tim, that's really good. We 148 00:08:35,180 --> 00:08:37,940 should actually now take that to the next level and add 149 00:08:37,940 --> 00:08:42,460 additional services and help people out. So we call that 150 00:08:42,460 --> 00:08:45,880 Tim's calm cash alerts. And that's the product that we're 151 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,420 really working on. And you got a little background with it, 152 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,720 Robert Plank: yeah, and, and. And I can tell that there's, 153 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,500 like, some of the military, Army thinking, because, like, you use 154 00:08:56,500 --> 00:08:58,960 that term activate, right? And they use that as far as, like, 155 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,420 well, we'll activate these troops and get this right. And 156 00:09:03,420 --> 00:09:06,300 so, so cool. So you found something that was already 157 00:09:06,300 --> 00:09:09,780 working and enhanced it. And like, with all this talk of 158 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,960 like, you know, the looking at, like, the fundamentals and the 159 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,200 charts and trading and having a strategy and timing, like, what 160 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:21,080 comes to mind is like, what do you think about how it's kind of 161 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,300 easy for a lot of people to think they're really smart when 162 00:09:23,300 --> 00:09:25,820 the market just keeps going up and up, and it's like hard to 163 00:09:25,820 --> 00:09:29,000 lose versus, you know, if things are flat, if things are down, 164 00:09:29,180 --> 00:09:32,360 like, what do you think about those people that say, like, 165 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,660 just park your money in a mutual fund, or just park it in a S, 166 00:09:35,780 --> 00:09:38,420 p5, 100, and that way you just, you don't have to think about 167 00:09:38,420 --> 00:09:43,300 it. I mean, is that, is that to tame or boring for you, or like, 168 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,960 like, why is that something to not do, or something that should 169 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,940 be considered? Or like, what are your thoughts on that? 170 00:09:49,540 --> 00:09:52,060 Casey Stubbs: So there's, I have a lot of thoughts on that. So 171 00:09:52,060 --> 00:09:56,920 that's a great question. My first thought is that no one is 172 00:09:56,980 --> 00:10:01,440 ever gonna care more about your money than you. Right. Okay. And 173 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,860 so when you just hand it off to a big mutual fund or whatever, 174 00:10:04,860 --> 00:10:08,220 you got to remember, they got a lot of fees. They're in it for 175 00:10:08,220 --> 00:10:12,300 the fees primarily. And yes, it's conservative, and yes, it's 176 00:10:12,300 --> 00:10:17,280 better than a bank, but you were talking about looking at what's 177 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,180 working and doing something that's already working. Your 178 00:10:20,180 --> 00:10:23,840 money is a tool, and you want to activate it again. The word 179 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,900 activate. You want to use that money to the best of its 180 00:10:26,900 --> 00:10:31,400 possibility. You want to use it as a tool. So if you want to put 181 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,280 it in a mutual fund, and you're like, those guys are too smart. 182 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,980 I don't have the time. I'm not smart enough. If you think like 183 00:10:36,980 --> 00:10:40,720 that, that's okay. It's not true. But then fine, go ahead 184 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,180 and do that, but I would definitely prefer to have a more 185 00:10:43,180 --> 00:10:46,300 hands on approach. Learn and educate yourself a little bit. 186 00:10:46,300 --> 00:10:50,140 It's not as complicated as what people think. Get past the fear. 187 00:10:50,140 --> 00:10:52,900 Yes, the market could crash, but if you have a nice safety 188 00:10:52,900 --> 00:10:57,580 mechanism that says, if it goes down 10% I get out and I wait, 189 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,780 or I go and find something else, because when the markets are 190 00:11:00,780 --> 00:11:03,240 crashing, you might get be able to look and oh, well, the gold 191 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,000 market's rising. So I'll move my money out of the stock market, 192 00:11:06,180 --> 00:11:08,700 and I'll move it into the gold market. If you just do a little 193 00:11:08,700 --> 00:11:10,800 bit of research about things like that, you can still do 194 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,400 really well in down markets, if you have a plan, 195 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,540 Robert Plank: and it seems like it's less lonely, right? If 196 00:11:18,540 --> 00:11:22,520 you're keeping up on the discussions and keeping up on 197 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,580 the YouTube channels, especially like, with like, like, Tim 198 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,260 posting his trades regularly. And so I noticed that in your 199 00:11:30,260 --> 00:11:34,940 background there you have a trading podcast. You have talk 200 00:11:34,940 --> 00:11:38,060 about, like, forex strategies. So like, what's what's this 201 00:11:38,060 --> 00:11:41,200 podcast about this, how to trade it. Okay, 202 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:46,840 Casey Stubbs: great question. So how to trade it? I really have a 203 00:11:46,900 --> 00:11:49,660 strong desire to help people learn to trade as good as 204 00:11:49,660 --> 00:11:53,020 possible, as well as possible, and make money. And so what I've 205 00:11:53,020 --> 00:11:57,280 done is I seek out the very best traders that I can find, and I 206 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,080 talk to them on the show, and I interview them, and I get as 207 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,800 much. I just glean out like you're doing for me. I just 208 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,520 glean out that knowledge and wisdom. And so it's what's 209 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,040 happened, is it's helped me become a much better trader. So 210 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,940 I use it as a first and foremost for myself, I'm very selfish. I 211 00:12:14,940 --> 00:12:18,420 want to talk to these people so I can get smarter, and then I 212 00:12:18,420 --> 00:12:21,680 share that information along to the audience as well, 213 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,320 Robert Plank: and so, and I imagine that you get like, 214 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,240 different sort, like, all kinds of different, like 215 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,360 personalities, and, you know, people that are maybe more 216 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,900 careful and people that are more like crazy and aggressive. So 217 00:12:32,900 --> 00:12:36,560 Does anything come to mind, as far as an interesting, like, 218 00:12:36,620 --> 00:12:40,040 Aha, or an interesting guest you had on the show? 219 00:12:40,700 --> 00:12:44,680 Casey Stubbs: Uh, yeah, actually, you're right. There's 220 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:46,840 a lot of different personalities, and I always pull 221 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,360 something out out of each one. But one of the most recent 222 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,760 shows, which hasn't published yet, it actually is going to be 223 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,840 published next week, is was I talked to Rob Booker, and he was 224 00:12:55,840 --> 00:13:00,180 a great guy, really colorful, fun to talk to, and but one of 225 00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:03,540 the big things that he said, Because I asked him a pointed 226 00:13:03,540 --> 00:13:06,180 question. I said, Rob, how long do you think it takes the 227 00:13:06,180 --> 00:13:09,360 average trader to be successful? And he said, Well, in my 25 228 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,840 years of experience, I would say the average is seven years. And 229 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,140 so that was kind of like, wow, okay. And he said, well, it 230 00:13:16,140 --> 00:13:19,140 doesn't have to take seven years. But if you, if you 231 00:13:19,140 --> 00:13:21,740 approach it with that mindset, you got to realize that there 232 00:13:21,740 --> 00:13:25,100 are some things to learn, and you have to, you know, develop 233 00:13:25,100 --> 00:13:28,340 that it's not as easy as what you think it's going to be. 234 00:13:28,340 --> 00:13:32,300 Robert Plank: We it's, it's like, like, people googling for 235 00:13:32,300 --> 00:13:35,060 to get legal advice or to get medical advice. Like, like, 236 00:13:35,060 --> 00:13:37,880 well, you could, you could get a little help along the way, but 237 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,600 you kind of need almost the equivalent of like, like a 238 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,300 college degree, and you can either, like, kind of get it in 239 00:13:43,300 --> 00:13:46,300 dribs and drabs, like, you know, audiobooking, or like, like, 240 00:13:46,300 --> 00:13:50,020 research or YouTube, or you can, like, really hunker down and get 241 00:13:50,020 --> 00:13:52,600 it all in a compressed time. But I like that, that way of 242 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,660 thinking, like that, there's like this, this whole block of 243 00:13:55,660 --> 00:13:59,080 like knowledge and all like the things to do, things not to do, 244 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,920 and it's just a matter of, like, well, you want to, like, take 245 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,040 your time on it. Or do you want to kind of go, go all in and 246 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,700 maybe, like, do, like, more, like, hands on, and then you get 247 00:14:08,700 --> 00:14:11,520 all that, that experience quickly, or, like, take your 248 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,760 time so, so yeah, it's, it seems like this is the kind of thing 249 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,780 where we need to be maybe devoting some amount of time to 250 00:14:18,780 --> 00:14:21,740 this, because otherwise it might take all these years. And like 251 00:14:21,740 --> 00:14:25,100 you said, too, if, like, it's not that hard to get up and 252 00:14:25,100 --> 00:14:27,920 running. And if you put your money in the hands of someone 253 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,580 else, they're looking to get the fees, and it won't, it won't 254 00:14:31,580 --> 00:14:35,000 really help you on the long run, as much as you just like 255 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,280 knowing, knowing enough yourself, right? 256 00:14:37,820 --> 00:14:40,100 Casey Stubbs: And even a little bit of education goes a long 257 00:14:40,100 --> 00:14:44,560 ways when it comes to money, you just, you don't know people's 258 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,900 motives. You know there's always, whenever you read 259 00:14:46,900 --> 00:14:49,540 something online, you got to remember is, ask yourself this 260 00:14:49,540 --> 00:14:53,560 question is, what is in it for them? What is their benefit? And 261 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,380 yes, I sell information products, so what's my benefit? 262 00:14:56,380 --> 00:14:59,200 Well, I make money when I sell stuff, so you have to look at 263 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,840 that, right? Well. Why is he doing this? But there's always a 264 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,840 hidden agenda somewhere, and you got to, kind of not to be 265 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:11,160 skeptical, but just evaluate. I'm not a skeptic. I believe in 266 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,820 good information, but just just try to be aware of what's going 267 00:15:14,820 --> 00:15:15,120 on. 268 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,300 Robert Plank: And that's been on my that kind of idea has been on 269 00:15:18,300 --> 00:15:21,380 my mind lately is that I don't know if it's like a, like, a 270 00:15:21,380 --> 00:15:24,680 getting older thing, or, like, I'm a dad now, but like, some of 271 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,560 the, like, the money stuff, the accounting stuff that I didn't 272 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,520 care about that much, maybe in my 20s, I'm a interest me, like, 273 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,540 a little bit more now. And like, when, when, like, I get my taxes 274 00:15:35,540 --> 00:15:39,320 done, I kind of scrolled on my tax return, like, oh, line 38 275 00:15:39,620 --> 00:15:41,620 that's there. That's interesting. And I'm like, I 276 00:15:41,620 --> 00:15:45,460 feel like, every year with, like, the the yearly taxes, in 277 00:15:45,460 --> 00:15:49,960 particular, I kind of get like, maybe, like, three inches deeper 278 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,800 into the water, as far as, like, knowing just enough. And I know 279 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,740 that, like, in the in like, this example of doing the taxes, 280 00:15:56,740 --> 00:15:59,620 like, there's no way I'd be able to do it myself. But I feel like 281 00:15:59,620 --> 00:16:03,060 I'm a little bit more like fluent or I can, I can look at 282 00:16:03,060 --> 00:16:05,520 it more and see what's happening. And I imagine that 283 00:16:05,700 --> 00:16:09,120 it's a similar situation with kind of anything money related, 284 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,380 right? Instead of it being a magic black box, then it would 285 00:16:13,380 --> 00:16:16,740 help all of us to just know a little bit more about what's 286 00:16:16,740 --> 00:16:19,920 going on. Even if we're not fully doing it, we're not fully 287 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,000 into it, it would just help to be just, like, a little bit more 288 00:16:23,060 --> 00:16:25,820 interested. And so I'm not really sure, like, where that 289 00:16:25,820 --> 00:16:29,120 came from. And like, have you noticed that? Or do you have any 290 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,020 advice on that in like, almost like, like, forcing yourself to 291 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,940 get interested in money, or, like, finding a way to to, like, 292 00:16:37,940 --> 00:16:41,020 get excited about it, and excited about, like, the nerd 293 00:16:41,020 --> 00:16:44,140 math fundamentals, when previously it maybe wasn't that 294 00:16:44,140 --> 00:16:44,740 interesting. 295 00:16:45,340 --> 00:16:47,320 Casey Stubbs: You know, that is a really good point. And I 296 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,500 actually have a couple little things I wanted to hit on based 297 00:16:50,500 --> 00:16:54,580 off your conversation there. The first one is on the taxes. You 298 00:16:54,580 --> 00:16:58,840 know, having a little bit of information goes a long ways, 299 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,120 because when you hire someone to do your taxes. You know, that's 300 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,120 a big deal, and you got to have a lot of trust there, and you 301 00:17:06,120 --> 00:17:09,960 don't even know what the you know the motivations of your tax 302 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,220 prep guy are. And so the if you have some good info, and you 303 00:17:14,220 --> 00:17:17,700 have done your due diligence, and it's not fun reading tax 304 00:17:17,700 --> 00:17:22,400 codes is terrible, right? But if you just just do it a little 305 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:27,140 bit, and then you ask your tax guy a few questions, you know, 306 00:17:27,980 --> 00:17:30,800 you can determine if you have a good tax guy. I've had to get go 307 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,080 through a lot of tax guys because I hired people that had 308 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,960 no idea what they were doing yet their CPAs, they're totally 309 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,900 certified, but they were really bad. So that's one part. And 310 00:17:38,900 --> 00:17:41,680 then as far as getting excited, I would say, look at your vision 311 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:46,300 and look at the Why don't just live life, you know, just going 312 00:17:46,300 --> 00:17:48,820 through the motions. Have a plan, have a purpose, have a 313 00:17:48,820 --> 00:17:52,660 reason. Figure out what your big why is. And then, you know, oh, 314 00:17:52,660 --> 00:17:54,940 I have a big why to do this. Well, then money becomes a 315 00:17:54,940 --> 00:17:57,640 little more important, because you're not going to be able to 316 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,380 do your big why, if you don't have the money. And so I teach 317 00:18:01,380 --> 00:18:06,000 my kids, you know about money, right from the beginning, I say, 318 00:18:06,120 --> 00:18:09,540 look, you're going to put 30% of this money away and you're going 319 00:18:09,540 --> 00:18:12,420 to start investing. So my 14 year old son, he works around 320 00:18:12,420 --> 00:18:15,900 the house. He does, you know, garbage and lawn mowing and all 321 00:18:15,900 --> 00:18:20,240 that stuff. He is required to put 30% of his money into 322 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,720 stocks. My daughter, who is 22 she works for me. She is 323 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,420 required. She's the only employee that I can do this 324 00:18:26,420 --> 00:18:30,440 with. She's required to put 30% away into stocks, and she's 325 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:35,060 already tripled her returns in the first two years of working 326 00:18:35,060 --> 00:18:38,720 for me. And so I'm like, You know what? My son, who's 14, I'm 327 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,080 like, when you when you get out of when you're ready to go on 328 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,480 your own, you're going to be ready. You're going to have 329 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,180 enough money, you're already going to be ahead of all those 330 00:18:46,180 --> 00:18:48,820 other people. And my daughter, she started a little bit later, 331 00:18:48,820 --> 00:18:52,540 but I'm like, when you're 29 or 30, you're going to be way ahead 332 00:18:52,540 --> 00:18:54,460 of the game, and you're not going to have a lot of the 333 00:18:54,460 --> 00:18:57,160 problems that normal people have with thinking about money 334 00:18:58,120 --> 00:19:01,260 Robert Plank: nice. I might need to steal that when my son gets 335 00:19:01,260 --> 00:19:04,680 old enough to to kind of set, set the like, like the ruler in 336 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,340 place and say, this percentage, put it into this so that way, 337 00:19:08,340 --> 00:19:12,660 and it's like, it seems like the the mindset is that, well, you 338 00:19:12,660 --> 00:19:16,320 could go like, the the no plan at all, instant gratification 339 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,140 way, which is like, it helps you now, but it kind of kills your 340 00:19:19,140 --> 00:19:21,740 future. And then the other extreme would be to, like, have 341 00:19:21,740 --> 00:19:25,040 no fun now, but then completely save for the future, which, 342 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,860 which might not come, or whatever. But then it's, it's 343 00:19:27,860 --> 00:19:30,140 like, there's, there's definitely all kinds of middle 344 00:19:30,140 --> 00:19:34,520 ground there. Like you said, 30% it's not saving 100% it's not 345 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,760 saving 90% it's like saving, just like, a well thought out 346 00:19:37,820 --> 00:19:41,140 chunk of your money. That way you can kind of have your cake 347 00:19:41,140 --> 00:19:44,200 and eat it too, right? That way you can have your fun now, but 348 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,200 then you make like, like, a tiniest little sacrifice. I'm 349 00:19:47,380 --> 00:19:49,840 not even sure if sacrifice is the right term, but you're just 350 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,900 like, like, kind of taking a chunk of what you have now and 351 00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:56,500 putting it away in the future. And it seems like that for some 352 00:19:56,500 --> 00:19:59,380 of us, it takes years to figure out, and it takes like, failure 353 00:19:59,380 --> 00:20:02,940 after failure. Earlier to figure that out. Of like, have like you 354 00:20:02,940 --> 00:20:07,020 said, have that why have that goal? Have kind of that, maybe, 355 00:20:07,020 --> 00:20:10,380 like, daily or monthly practice in place with your money, and 356 00:20:10,380 --> 00:20:14,160 then that way it's you might maybe, some days hate it. Now 357 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,120 you might say, oh, like, I got 1000 bucks, and I'm just a kid, 358 00:20:18,120 --> 00:20:22,520 and I wish I had more than 700 bucks left over, but then it all 359 00:20:22,580 --> 00:20:26,540 pays off later. And so that's been on my mind quite a bit 360 00:20:26,540 --> 00:20:30,320 lately, is like sometimes doing the things that I don't feel 361 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,320 like doing, but then once I start doing it, then the goal, 362 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,960 the why, kicks in, and then it's, it's fun again, and so, 363 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,540 and that, that's the thing I'm trying to tap in with, that is 364 00:20:38,540 --> 00:20:43,600 kind of the like the socializing and the podcast appearance. Like 365 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,420 you said, you have all these podcasters on you've been. This 366 00:20:46,420 --> 00:20:49,180 is the second time you've been on my show. It seems like you 367 00:20:49,180 --> 00:20:53,020 have a lot of fun. Do you ever have those days when you say, 368 00:20:53,020 --> 00:20:56,320 Oh, I don't want to do a podcast. I don't want to hop on 369 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,200 a podcast, rather, just like, go on the computer and get do some 370 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,040 stock trading. I mean, do you ever have those down days? You 371 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,000 have a way through it. 372 00:21:04,500 --> 00:21:08,820 Casey Stubbs: Honestly, I love what I do. You know, I was in, I 373 00:21:08,820 --> 00:21:12,060 did a lot of things before this, and I was in construction. And 374 00:21:12,060 --> 00:21:14,760 this isn't the only reason why I love what I do, is because I'm 375 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,360 doing something that really fits my gifting. And I think that's a 376 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:22,640 big thing. So I have energy. But when I was in construction, you 377 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,540 know, some it was just busy work. You know, I was a labor 378 00:21:26,540 --> 00:21:30,860 and I would carry concrete bags and lumber and all kinds of 379 00:21:30,860 --> 00:21:33,920 weird stuff. And, you know, I would always just look at the 380 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,280 clock. It's like, three o'clock. Is when I got off? Is it three 381 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,080 yet? I'd look it'd be five minutes later. Is it three yet 382 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,860 five minutes later, now I look at the clock and it's like, oh 383 00:21:44,860 --> 00:21:49,120 my goodness, it's three o'clock. I have to go home. So it's just 384 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:51,760 a totally different perspective. And I'm really thankful that I 385 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:57,100 do what I do, but my biggest struggle is to not just jump on 386 00:21:57,100 --> 00:22:01,080 the computer and start working and trading, because I can 387 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,800 easily, there's so much work to be done, I can easily just jump 388 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,100 in and start working like a whirlwind, and then by the end 389 00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:09,900 of the day, I'm like, Where'd the time go? And I didn't 390 00:22:09,900 --> 00:22:14,100 actually move the needle. And that's why every single day, I'm 391 00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:18,420 disciplined to sit down. I actually, I actually lock myself 392 00:22:18,420 --> 00:22:21,140 in my truck in the parking lot before I get into work, I go 393 00:22:21,140 --> 00:22:26,540 into my truck, and I sit down, and I just write down, okay, 394 00:22:26,540 --> 00:22:30,560 what's the big picture? And I write down everything that comes 395 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:35,300 to the top of my mind. Then I'm like, Okay, how do I accomplish 396 00:22:35,300 --> 00:22:39,380 this? Write it all down. What are my obstacles? Write it all 397 00:22:39,380 --> 00:22:43,900 down. And then every day after spending, you know, 30 to 45 398 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,820 minutes of just unwinding like that and decompressing, then I 399 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,700 go into the office with a really focused plan. 400 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,840 Robert Plank: I like that a lot, and I've been making sure lately 401 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:00,220 to wake up super duper early, wake up at like, 4am 5am to get 402 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,820 to get some things done before the baby wakes up and before, 403 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,660 before everyone else wants my attention, both in person and 404 00:23:06,660 --> 00:23:10,200 also on the internet and computer land. And it makes me 405 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,500 think of like, back when I was let me like a teenager on the 406 00:23:13,500 --> 00:23:16,860 weekends, or even like a young guy, I would be looking for the 407 00:23:16,860 --> 00:23:19,620 distractions, right? I'd sit down on the computer, I'd like, 408 00:23:19,620 --> 00:23:22,580 check my email, and there's 10 things that need my attention. 409 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,280 And then now there's, you know, the notifications of social 410 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,060 media and and with this waking up early, I've been kind of 411 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:32,300 tapping into a little bit of what you're talking about there, 412 00:23:32,300 --> 00:23:35,900 of just like enjoying, like the quiet time and thinking about 413 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,500 the big picture of the goals about what I'm going to do. And, 414 00:23:39,500 --> 00:23:42,940 I mean, I found that so helpful too, in that instead of just 415 00:23:42,940 --> 00:23:46,240 jumping in and doing whatever, whatever you might think needs 416 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,880 doing, it's like you're, you're doing a lot of work, but you 417 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,640 might be running really fast in the wrong direction, and it's 418 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:56,980 and it might be better to run or jog in the correct direction, as 419 00:23:56,980 --> 00:23:59,860 opposed to running a full speed in the wrong direction. And so 420 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:03,900 yeah, this is really powerful stuff, and I appreciate you very 421 00:24:03,900 --> 00:24:07,380 much for not just doing the, not just doing the things that are 422 00:24:07,380 --> 00:24:10,560 making you money, but also like, like teaching it and being a 423 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,100 marketer, and having the these podcasts and having this course 424 00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:16,620 and doing all these things. So can you tell us about some of 425 00:24:16,620 --> 00:24:20,120 these things? Like, who is it for? What do we get? Where we go 426 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:20,660 to get it. 427 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,880 Casey Stubbs: So my website is trading strategyguides.com and 428 00:24:25,940 --> 00:24:28,460 the podcast is on there too, which I think is a great place 429 00:24:28,460 --> 00:24:31,400 to just to start to learn. You know, you can listen get a wide 430 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,800 variety of what's happening in different markets, crypto 431 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,640 markets, forex market, stock markets, options. Can learn all 432 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,020 that stuff. So that's one really good thing, but it's just for 433 00:24:41,020 --> 00:24:45,520 people that really want to use their money as a tool. You know, 434 00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:49,960 money's not good, money's not evil, it's just a tool. And you 435 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:55,120 want to put your money to work, don't work for your money. Make 436 00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:57,820 your money work for you. So if you're interested in making your 437 00:24:57,820 --> 00:25:02,400 money work for you, you. Got to have investing. And whether it's 438 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:09,180 stock or even real estate or investing in businesses, there's 439 00:25:09,180 --> 00:25:13,560 you really have to have to have to have to put your money to 440 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,960 work for you. And so if that's something that you would be 441 00:25:16,020 --> 00:25:18,360 really interested in, you should check out my site. You there's a 442 00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:21,080 lot of education there. Fantastic. 443 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,900 Robert Plank: Instead of working till you die, have your money 444 00:25:23,900 --> 00:25:26,780 grow, have your money work for you. And that is trading 445 00:25:26,780 --> 00:25:29,540 strategy guide.com. Is that correct? 446 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,800 Casey Stubbs: You get trading strategy guides with an S, with 447 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,400 Robert Plank: an S, okay. Trading Strategy guide.com. And 448 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,900 as we wrap up, wind down here, Casey, do you have any parting 449 00:25:40,900 --> 00:25:44,560 words for us, any just like final words of advice to really 450 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:45,820 wrap up this conversation. 451 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:54,700 Casey Stubbs: Well, just, you know, live, live to the best of 452 00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:58,180 your ability. And you know, focus on what you want. One of 453 00:25:58,180 --> 00:26:01,740 the big things is we have choices in this world, and so 454 00:26:01,860 --> 00:26:04,560 just don't do things that you don't want to do. You might feel 455 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,040 like you don't have a choice, but you do. Just don't do 456 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,040 something. If you hate your job, do something about it. If you 457 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,540 hate your life, do something about it. Don't set. Settle for 458 00:26:15,540 --> 00:26:17,040 something that you don't like. 459 00:26:18,420 --> 00:26:21,320 Robert Plank: Excellent. Don't settle. You have a choice, and 460 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,220 the choice right now is whether to or to not go to trading 461 00:26:25,220 --> 00:26:28,760 strategyguides.com and I think we know what's the incorrect 462 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,520 choice and what's the correct choice, so we will see you over 463 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,180 at trading strategy guides.com and thanks Casey for hopping on 464 00:26:35,180 --> 00:26:37,520 the show. I appreciate it. Thanks, Robert, you.