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Robert Plank: So welcome back to
the marketer of the day podcast.

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We're here with Brad Smith, who
can help you uncover the content

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marketing secrets of 10 figure
brands, Brad Smith is the CEO of

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workable and codeless. He helps
10 figure brands like monday.com

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or Nextiva dominate categories
with content marketing at a

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massive scale. Brad's super glad
to be talking to you. Thank you,

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Robert. Yeah, likewise. And so
you have these, these three

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companies that you run, and you
do all kinds of different

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things. And I'm sure you always
wonder, like, where to find time

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to sleep and, and how to focus
and things like that. But what

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has been your your passion in
the last six months or so what

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has just fired up in

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Unknown: the last six months or
so we have been rebuilding and

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re launching portable, which has
been interesting. As you can

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imagine, it's always a challenge
to rebuild something from

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scratch. So that's been really
interesting. I did some

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traveling too. So maybe that's a
little outside of all this nerdy

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content stuff. But I did a big
road trip not too long ago,

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across the US, which is a lot of
fun with my family. So. So yeah,

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there's just just more
interesting projects and more

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ways to spend time with family
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my mind, I guess,

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Robert Plank: well, doing
everything because like, the

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thing that has been on on my
mind lately is, you know, we're

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all going to get old, you'll get
old, I'll get old. And, and you

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know, hopefully that's a long
time from now. And hopefully,

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when we're all we have a good
quality of life, but there's no

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guarantees, and you never know
if you might have some, you

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know, physical ailment, or if
you won't feel good, or if you

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have brain fog. And so I've just
been really kind of like

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reminding myself a lot recently,
especially of like, if if my

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health is good, if I can think
if I can do things, I should be

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grateful for what I have,
because a lot of people don't

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have those things, or a lot of
people struggle a lot more than

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I think I struggle. So it's good
that you find the time to spend

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that family time and travel
where you want to travel. And so

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Alright, so So word of well, can
you tell me about that and

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telling you about, you know,
what it does, what problem it

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solves and how it's unique?

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Unknown: For sure, yeah, so we
were actually a customer of

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audible. And I've used it for a
while basically, it helps move

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content from historically Google
Docs to WordPress. So we do this

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under our content agency
codeless, we have like 300

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articles a month, it takes
roughly 30 to 60 minutes to

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upload format, optimize every
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times 300 A month times, you
know, whatever we're paying

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people to do that. And it ends
up being a lot of tedious

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recurring stuff. So our hope was
workable is to basically

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automate all that stuff for you.
So that way, it kind of cleans

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the code the format and looks
exactly like it should, based on

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like, what you guys were just
working on and getting approved

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and Google Doc, we still use
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these huge brands we work with,
just because easiest, the best

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for collaboration. But then also
take care of some of the like,

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on page optimization. So all the
all the you know, sucky stuff,

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for lack of better word you have
to do like once you jump into

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your website, to like, make sure
a piece of content actually

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looks good enough to publish. So
where the goal is, is going to

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eventually kind of automate that
whole process, hopefully.

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Robert Plank: Well, cool. So
just to make sure that I kind of

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have my head wrapped around
this. So with word I mean, like

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you said, like Google Docs is
pretty cool as far as having a

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lot of people collaborate. And I
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the last few years, they've
tried to make it easy with like,

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the revisions and multiple
people jumping in, but I don't

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know about you, Brad. But
whenever I go to edit a

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WordPress post, or some scary
thing, saying, like someone else

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has already editing it, and you
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to lock it, and I thought, why
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collaboration was that I could
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and I can do it. And like you
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for creating it. But then when I
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just it feels it reminds me of
the days of of having an a Word

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document and needing the put it
into HTML, and you feel almost

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like you're starting from
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formatting so I can see that the
headache and so how does

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worktable work? Exactly? Is it
like a plugin? Is it make it one

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click? Like, how, how does this
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Unknown: Yeah, for WordPress, it
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other content management systems
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Contentful. Eventually, Shopify
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lot of those platforms are
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terms of how we can connect and
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is still a plugin, but
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it's you go into the app, you
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the documents I was just working
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always say WordPress is good for
everything except for writing

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in. I've done a lot of freelance
writing. And it's awful to do

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like your actual work,
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about, you know, multi 1000 word
articles, with images and all

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this other heavy stuff. It's
painful. And so we often approve

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things or get things approved in
Google Docs, or some other

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format writers like to write in
someplace where it's easy, it's

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distraction free. It kind of
suits them best. And so we're

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basically grabbing those
documents wherever they live

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wherever they are, and then
importing them into like, in

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this case, portable or any other
CMS, and we're cleaning the code

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is a big one. So If you just
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WordPress, you get a lot of like
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other messy crappy code, it
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the formatting doesn't properly
move either when you copy and

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paste stuff like that, it
doesn't move images. So you

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usually have to in Google Docs,
you have to go to like export as

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an HTML file. And then you have
to go grab all the images, and

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then manually upload those and
then go insert them back into

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the post. So there's all these
like, additional steps people

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have to do to solve this
problem. And frankly, it's kind

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of crazy that there's, there's
no better solution already out

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there. And so that's what we're
hoping to do with Audible is to

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kind of like automates
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Robert Plank: And did I hear you
correctly that you said you were

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a customer of theirs? And then
you bought them out? Or did they

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hear that wrong? Yeah,

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Unknown: so we, we actually know
that people originally created

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it, but you the VASH, from
growing converts another Content

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Agency, they started in 2016, I
think we were a customer

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probably like pretty early on
around them. And then they sold

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it to another person a year or
two later. And then that owner

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held it up until last year when
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then we like I said, we are a
customer and we use it for all

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of our WordPress based client
sites. But we do have a bunch of

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other, you know, clients on
bunch of other tools. And so

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that's why we're hoping to kind
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evolve and a lot more to add at
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platform.

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Robert Plank: And that's really
cool story. Because like I think

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about there were like a handful
of software tools that I use

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that like I feel like I'm like
one of the biggest fans of and

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and unlike I feel like they owe
me a commission for how much I

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just like to talk about what I
do and how much it's like,

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embedded into my business. So
that's cool that you used it so

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much that when I went up for
sale, you said you'd be crazy to

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to not grab it, because who
knows if someone else will get

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it. And now you have the chance
to add the features that you

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always wanted to do. Because
that's always a problem too.

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When you when you use a tool,
use a platform, and you love it

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so much and use it for
everything. You're like, Ah, I

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wish they just did these things,
extra three things and they just

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won't budge. They just won't do
it. So that's cool that that

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worked out for you. And so how
long has it been since you since

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you acquired it? And like what's
the difference between worktable

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before you and what you've added
since you've been in charge? For

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Unknown: sure we acquired it a
little over a year ago. So like

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last summer, or like last early
summer, we were always going to

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rebuild it kind of from the from
the beginning, because a lot of

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the existing logic and
everything was still tied very

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much to Google Docs and very
much to WordPress. And one of

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the things one of the big
reasons we wanted to acquire it

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and kind of like continue
working on it was just that

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problem that we have, when we
have clients on Contentful.

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There are all these new headless
CMS is like Contentful and craft

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and ghost, you have lead flow
coming up, you have big

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commerce, Shopify, like a huge e
commerce space that you know is

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it really doesn't really have
any good options for this. And

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so that was always one of the
big things. And then we always,

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even after moving a document
over, we still found ourselves

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having to jump into that client
or our own websites and still do

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like, you know, five to 10 other
things. So to optimize like a

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piece of content properly, you
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you don't want to you don't want
images to be like massive file

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sizes to slow down your website,
you don't want on those images

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themselves, you want to make
sure you're adding alt text and

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other things too for like web
accessibility, but also for

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search engines. So there's like
all these additional little

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steps, sometimes even like
opening External links in a new

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tab, so that that window opens
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browser window or another tab
and you're able to keep people

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kind of on the page on the site.
So there's all these like little

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dumb, recurring tasks that you
need to do that might take, you

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know, a minute or two minutes
each time, but when you're doing

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it across, like 10 links per
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article, and they're doing a ton
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that stuff like really, really
adds up. So the plan was always

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to kind of rebuild it from
scratch at all these things

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really kind of evolve what we're
doing, and some other kind of

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cool stuff in the works. But
yeah, I think it's this. It's a

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very kind of easy ROI. If you're
working on a ton of content like

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we are we we probably spent
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dollars on people just having to
manually do this stuff. And you

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know, they don't like doing it.
It's not the most fun task in

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the world either. And so it's,
you know, we're hoping that it

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should be kind of a win win for
for content teams, and also the

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people doing the work. So they
can kind of do more important

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stuff with their day, not just
like, have to mess around with

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WordPress and get things like
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Robert Plank: and that's the
whole point of software in

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general, right. It's to replace
a manual repetitive task done by

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a person so that way it can be
done automatically. I mean, it's

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like, I remember when I was a
kid, and I was like six years

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old, and my parents let me play
with a typewriter and you type

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things on a page. And if one
little thing was wrong, then

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guess what you had to start
completely from scratch and go

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back to the typewriter. And then
nowadays we have word processors

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and now you can just do one
quick thing and now it's fixed.

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And in your story there. What
came to mind is that that whole

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eating your own dog food
programming concept where it's

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like, well, you have a piece of
software and sure they they

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might have like Tutorial Videos.
But it's usually sort of like,

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like feature base where I got to
like tab based like, Hey, isn't

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it great that we let you do
this? Isn't it great that we let

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you do that. And then usually
when you like, go deep into like

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a software tool, then those
tutorial videos only get you so

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far. And then maybe you run the
message boards, or then you

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might buy like a course or
something. And then the course

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is usually saying, well, here's
how to use this tool. But then

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also for the features that
lacks, here's this other

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solution. And here's this like
second toy you might have to

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use. And here's some things to
watch out for things to do not

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to do. And it just kind of
seemed like when you were

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explaining the whole process
there of having to, you know,

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move images, compress images,
set links to open it in new

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windows, it's it's just it
brought to mind all those kinds

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of missing features that if
there if there was a course on

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workable before you came along,
it might you know, spend hours

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explaining all that saying,
well, you'd have to run over

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here to do this remember to
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into the software. And it's also
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these new, like, you know,
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in WordPress and so, so many
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there been any difficulties
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talking about software where
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wrong. And people even more
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difficulties have you
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Unknown: Yeah, for sure. So we,
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that's great. I think they can

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most are similar to us, and that
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marketing teams with like a team
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we're used to managing content
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to change too many things at one
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direction we need to move in,
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even giving people a heads up
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from what they're used to their
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definitely like a huge area
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ball the most, because I was
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was a big issue. Another one has
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about to build on top of what we
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just take time. And so it's
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release something that in my
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it's like, well, we have to
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really supporting the old
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then slowly start to add in a
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that are going to make the
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things that seem clunky, right
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it's not, you know, like
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that's also kind of, like
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to kind of like, like I said,
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something that you know, you're
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but it's just kind of it is what
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step one, in a longer, much
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are those have been the hardest
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because it's there's, there's
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Robert Plank: Yeah. And it seems
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like, like five or six options
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bad. So it's like you choose
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be comfortable and complacent. I
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what happened with with the
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they just let things sit and
they got so bored that they had

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to get rid of it. Who knows. But
so yeah, and but so I like your

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your philosophy here where you
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be 100% Perfect, but what's more
important is that people start

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using it. And some people might
be mad because one little thing

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changed. Like I know I get mad
if WordPress like, you know,

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moves one, one little thing in
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people might be a little bit
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more important, versus the
perfection is get people using

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the dang thing?

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Unknown: Yeah, definitely. And
it's not obviously it's a rocky

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road and we're expecting you
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expecting issues. So it's not
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things that we had to change it

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maybe to revert the behavior to
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app just to kind of like help
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efficiently. And there's other
things that we're building and

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all these additional features,
which is great. But additional

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features often just complicate
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until we can come back and build
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streamline everything, that's
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little bit clunky in that it's
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extra clicks, a few extra steps.
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it's not, it's not an ideal
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just kind of like one of those,
like, you know, band aids, you

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have to use in the short term to
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something that's a lot better
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a user of different software,
like you can kind of tell when

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maybe they have a little bit of
a false start, or they have to

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backpedal a little bit. And
like, what comes to comes to

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mind is Zapier where they change
their interface so much. And I

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can tell like, I'm really like,
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awkward before, and then now
that I can I can tell what

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they're trying to go for. But
maybe, maybe it's like, now I'm

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not, I'm not, I'm even more lost
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about to give up. And then I
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and it's like, okay, now they,
they added something in there to

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like bridge the gap and make it
easier for me. So even as a, as

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a user of software, I can kind
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that inaction where they're
like, Okay, we want to add this

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feature, we want to add this
extra power, we want you to be

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able to do these other things.
But we also don't want to get in

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the way of the speed and the
workflow. And sometimes it's

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like, you can't even get there
until you you make a bunch of

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mistakes. And then you can get
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yeah, so that's, that's
interesting to think about. And

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so you mentioned about, you
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adding a new thing. So is there
anything exciting coming up that

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you feel like sharing with us
about some things that are in

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the future moving forward for
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of them, the additional CMS
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other big ones that people are

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building, you know, a lot of
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tool like web flow, a lot of

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people are kind of moving in
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happy to start releasing that
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better automation. So being able
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people will publish to the same
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settings. So they might want to
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not, they might want to open
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not. There's all these different
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people once they get into the
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the same thing. That doesn't
change that often. All the

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content they start putting in
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formatting. And so being able to
save those settings and be a

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little more like one click
almost like Amazon kind of one

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click by type of idea. And then
we're also we're also building

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out not just like the sources to
import, but also like better

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deeper integrations with with
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export a document directly from
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as opposed to having to jump
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basically, like, a lot of those
things will kind of build on top

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of that infrastructure we
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like the existing experience and
make it you know, lightning

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that, that that thought process
loan is, how can we remove

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clicks? How can we get it to one
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mom was blown. The first time I
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years ago, and I was like,
there's no save button. Whatever

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happened. I use a Word document,
I have to click Save. And I

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forget to save I use it. And it
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like, man, it's it's so much
easier now. Because I don't have

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to think about what happened.
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every 10 minutes. Like it just
happens. And so. So yeah, just

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even that even that thought
process alone in whatever it is

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that we do even like if it's if
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with clients, or whatever kind
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can we remove one step here to
there just to make it that much

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smoother to move along? So
there's all these good things to

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think about? And as we're
getting to the tail end of our

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conversation here, Brad, is
there some kind of a secret to

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your success? Like with all of
your your travels and all of

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your years of you know, business
and ups and downs? Is there

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something that you think people
need to know about or something

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that maybe you do better than
others that just is really

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missing in the world?

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Unknown: Through your question,
there's no secrets. The two

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things that kind of come to mind
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at like the boring stuff like
operations. So getting much

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better at building systems and
all that kind of stuff. Because

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that allows me like that. We
have really good teams now in

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our agencies and stuff where I
don't have to get involved. And

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if I do get involved, I usually
screw things up at this point.

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So they don't want me to get
involved. But that means I get

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to spend the time on new new
projects like this like portable

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because I don't have to be on
every call taught up on Slack 24

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hours a day. I don't have to
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I've been able to like build out
good systems and processes and

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then hire really good people. I
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is like just just and then
rewarding like good people. The

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other I think I guess the other
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basically been working at the
same problem for like a decade.

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And I think people tend to get a
little too like shiny object

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where if anything, we're just
going deeper in the same space

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like we're not We're not like,
I'm not opening like a

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restaurant or a brewery or like
all these other fun things that

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would be awesome. On the
surface, I'm just like, still

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chipping away at the same
problem like this intersection

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of content and SEO. And so I
think that's, it's not a secret

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by any stretch, because it's
just, you know, if you, I'm not

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that smart, if you just do
something long enough, and keep

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attacking it from different
angles, and you just keep at it

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for a long time, then
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Robert Plank: Well, I like that
a lot. I feel like if we were to

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name this episode, or if someone
was to write a book about you,

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it could be called get better at
boring because there's so much

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just built into that, right?
Because it's like, if it's if

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it's a boring problem, like it's
something that a lot of people's

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like, won't even won't even
bother with. And if you find a

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successful solution that's
making you money that people are

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using, like you said, you can go
deeper and deeper into it. And

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you always hear about that
entrepreneurial ADD where some

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of a project or a business might
be boring for you, but it's

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still making money. And it's
still helping others. And I

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mean, even there's so much in
like in marketing matches,

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taking something that is boring
on the surface, but then you add

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up all these kinds of, you know,
fun, fun psychology and fun

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language and fun features and
fun, like, you know, tutorials,

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videos, demonstrations, things
like that, and you make it fun,

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you make it not boring. And
what's boring for you is not

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boring for other people. So
yeah, I think that we could all

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really learn from that get
better at the boring. And we

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were talking to Brad Smith from
watertable.io. Do you have any

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other links, resources or places
to go to a plug here today,

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Brad?

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Unknown: Yeah, where double.io
is the best. I'm on LinkedIn,

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but I'm not that active. I think
my handle is BS marketer,

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because those are my initials.
Also, my content agency is

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codeless get called this.com.
And then you serve as our PR

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distribution, that's you STRP
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that I so those are all the
places that I'm at. But as I

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mentioned, I'm not I'm not
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socials because I I'm spending
too much time trying to get all

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these all these various projects
to line up and off the ground

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and all that

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Robert Plank: you're busy on the
important stuff. And, and early

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on, I was super young once when
my mind was blown. When one time

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on sometimes. One time someone
told me like, you don't have to

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give away things for free. Like
there was a period of time when

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everyone had an opt in page,
everyone had a free gift.

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Everyone had a free trial. And I
had this mentor. I mean decades

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ago who was like, you know, not
everyone does that. Like you

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don't have to have a blog, if
you don't want to you don't have

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to have social media presence.
If you if you don't want to, you

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can try and if it if it works
for you and gets your clicks

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great. But just because everyone
else is doing it, you don't have

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to be the one that does it. If
you have other ways of making

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money. If your personality
doesn't work there if you if you

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don't want to do it, if you just
want to do it sometimes like you

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don't have to do anything that
you don't want to do. So that's

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a good lesson there. At least
for me listening and talking to

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you, you s e rp.io Get
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there right now, while it's
still fresh on your mind. And

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why not add BS marketer Brad
Smith on social media, even

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though he might only check every
now and then well, when he does

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check, he'll see a message from
you saying, Hey, I listen to you

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on the marketer of the day
podcast. I really liked what you

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said. And Brad will be very
impressed that once a month or

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so he goes and checks it so why
not go to those places? Talk to

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him on social media. And if you
were at all dealing with content

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marketing, if you're an agency
of some kind if you deal with

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Google Docs or or HubSpot or a
Shopify or WordPress and you

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need to use this tool, this tool
sounds good for you and your

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team workable.io is the place to
go and Brad Smith. super glad

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talking to you and thanks for
stopping by.

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Unknown: Yeah, thank you,
Robert. I really appreciate it's

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been a lot of fun