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Robert Plank: marketer of the
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list building grow your network
with Corinne Lafond. Welcome

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back to the podcast. We're here
with Corinne Lafond, and Corrine

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has been a PR practitioner for
the past 10 years, she lived in

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Jamaica. Now she's back in her
home of Trinidad and Tobago. She

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has been a Toastmaster since
2012. and held the position of

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PR manager epi division and
district level. And Karina will

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be talking to us about PR,
communications, branding,

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protocol, etiquette and how that
all relates to her in her

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business, making money, having
fun, delivering your message,

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changing the world, all that fun
stuff. So glad to have you on

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the program.

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Unknown: It'll be great to spend
the rest of my life with you,

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Robert, because clearly, all of
that will have to be done in the

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rest of our lives. Yes,

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Robert Plank: is a never ending
work and, and the thing that

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impresses me the most about you,
the thing that drew me to you is

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I was making that deliberate
effort to appear on other

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podcasts to contact with their
podcasts, I went to a podcasting

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directory and as you know,
everyone is fine. Get being on

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your podcast. But then when it's
time to return the favor, it's

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always difficult, right? They
don't they don't they don't want

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to help you out. They don't want
to give you your your buzz, your

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marketing. But what really
impressed me about you and your

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listing in the podcast directory
was you said, be a guest on my

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show. And then in return, I will
be a guest on your show. And I

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was very impressed with that.
Because so many times some

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people are good at their
relationships, but there's no

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kind of there's no system right?
There's no method to the

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madness. Yeah. But But I just
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people are relationship people.
And there's there's no system.

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And some people are all about
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but there's no relationship. So
what's good about you, from what

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I know from you so far already
being on your show, is you sort

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of have both right you you have
the people skills, but also the

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systems so that we it's
repeatable, so So yeah, what's

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on your mind, what has been your
focus lately in your business,

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Unknown: you know, a lot of
things has have been on my mind,

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a lot of things, you know,
coming to the end of the year,

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but for me, it's always throw
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the end of the year as
entrepreneurs, we we tend to

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kind of roll a lot of things,
what has happened in the past

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year where we would want to do
things differently, some new

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ideas coming forward, that I
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implementing, I'm not finished,
you know, putting the things

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together, because it's all
technology. And you know, you

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have to make sure you have to
put all the dominoes in place.

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So when one is not to where
everything is going to work. But

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But yeah, but it's really about
building relationships. That's

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what I'm about. I'm about
building relationships, trying

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to meet as many people as
possible that would be willing

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and able to work with me in
whatever capacity but the

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struggle with that is, there are
people who will look at you and

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say, I You're not the type of
person I want to work with, in

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the sense that you don't have so
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the amount of statistics, you're
not as an influencer, you're

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probably not this particular
race, you know, you're not in a

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particular location, it's a lot
of things, I wouldn't want to

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say working against you their
criteria that they use is what

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they use, and it may eliminate,
I will tell you the possibility

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of having something really,
really good coming out of that

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relationship if you just take
the chance. And entrepreneurship

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is about taking the risks, and
not just seeing the picture that

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you want. But there may be
something bigger behind that you

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are not seeing and if you just
allow things to happen, it will

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it will manifest itself. You
know, I have had some IDs that I

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put on one most every year and I
reach out to people I reach out

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to my list of people who are
guests on my show, first of all,

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they're my core group who have
been guests on my podcast and

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then I reach out what after
that. And I don't ask people how

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many followers you have, what's
your influence? How many

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Twitter's? How many days who how
many, I don't ask that, if

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somebody is willing to be a
speaker and can bring value and

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can follow the instructions that
is given I am there to support

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you, because I believe we are
all trying in the same space to

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get somewhere wherever that
somewhere is we are trying to

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get somewhere and the most
beautiful thing is having a

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picture in your mind of what
that somewhere may be or is and

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then the unexpected things
happen that you never

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anticipated that is even better
than the thing that you picture

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in your mind. And so you end up
gelling with someone you ended

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up relating so well that you
want to continue working or you

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put people on to other people,
you know, get into more of the

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network that persons can work
with. So I I am all about

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building relationships, I'm all
about being authentic. I am

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about, you know, just seeing
where life takes me. You know,

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I, people's I don't believe in
planning, I used to at one

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point, the pandemic has taught
many people that, hey, all your

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plans, forget it. You know,
don't even think about planning.

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And I'm not saying that people
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although that's a great way to
live. But you can have things in

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your mind that you can start
putting in place, putting little

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things in place, you know,
setting things up, but don't

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hold it to your chest in a way
that, oh, I'm going to hold on

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to this. And you know, don't be
so tight about it, just put

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things in place as much as you
can, and let it go. And as you

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see opportunities, because
opportunities keep coming in my

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inbox every day, it's amazing.
It might be in alignment with

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the things that I think about
and what I want to do. And I'm

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like, Whoa, this is, this is
good, where did you come from,

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it might stir the pot a bit,
because I might have been

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leaning towards something else.
And then this thing comes up,

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and it's in such alignment with
what I want to do. And I'm like,

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why I, I feel this, this is
resonating with me. And you may

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have to shift. So be liquid, be
flexible, be open, you know, be

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malleable, you know, that's what
it is be resilient, don't be so

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tight about anything, because
things may come that may be

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better, and you can just ignore
it because you're so fixated on

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this particular part.

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Robert Plank: I like that a lot.
be dynamic, be adaptable. And

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and the thing that I'm I'm
having in my mind, as you're

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saying this is, it's still
important to have a plan because

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you're saying that trap number
one is having no plan and then

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you don't even know where you're
ending up. And then trap number

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two is the other extreme where
your plan is so rigid, that you

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may miss good opportunities
along the way, or you or you may

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shoot yourself in the foot
because life never goes as

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planned. There's always some
unexpected difficulties,

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roadblocks, and then even the
the final outcome may be about

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like, you know, 20% difference,
right and what what you

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expected. And then at that
point, it's time to then

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readjust and head towards the
next goal. And what you're

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saying about what you've
learned. And what you're good at

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is have these relationships and
don't just look at the numbers,

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don't just look at what's on
paper, number of followers have

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this core group and you know
what come in, this is something

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that I took me a few years to
figure out because you always

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think about creating content,
blogging, warming up your list,

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podcasting. And once I realized,
man, a podcast, instead of it

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being me clicking the record
button and talking about topic,

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one topic to topic three,
instead, get other people on the

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show, and then have all this
back and forth. And then now you

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have all these possibilities
right now you can be on their

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show, they can promote your
show. And then you even

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mentioned that kind of three way
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someone needs help with this,
but you can't provide it but you

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know, someone who knows it and
you connect those people now you

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win on both sides. So there's a
lot of like, bigger picture

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thinking outside the box
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Unknown: right? That's right. I
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with me alone speaking it. When
I was setting up my podcast, I

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thought of that as like, what am
I going to do my part especially

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I did my self talk. I'm like,
That makes no sense. I don't

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feel good about that. That's
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I'm hearing my own self. I'm
talking to myself. It's not I

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haven't done it. And so for
example, right now, I am doing a

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12 days countdown to Christmas,
you know when series on my

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Facebook, YouTube and LinkedIn,
I'm talking, but it's like I'm

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talking. It's live. Some talking
to people, some people engage

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some people don't it doesn't
matter to me. But I'm sharing my

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experience. I see it as more
video journal. So I am

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journaling my own experience on
video sharing. Somebody may see

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it at some point, it doesn't
matter to me. I am just sharing.

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I'm just documenting this thing.
So I don't know how far I will

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reach no with my podcast because
I wanted to meet people from all

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over the world have that? That
intellectual banter. I thrive on

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that I love intellectual banter
and just challenge each other

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question thing that is more
engaging. People want to hear

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that back and forth go this way,
go that way and leave with

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making their own decisions,
whether they agree or disagree

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have their own opinion. I think
it's more interactive. So I went

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that way. And so this is why I
did the podcast exchange

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extravaganza. Because I know
people I thought of a marketing

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approach. I wouldn't have to
spend money obviously. And it

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would allow me to get on other
people's podcasts. Other people

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will hear me hopefully once it's
promoted and all of that and you

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just never know who may listen
to it and find me is the same

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for you. On my podcasts or any
other podcasts been on my

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podcast, and somebody listened,
and they may end up reaching out

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to me and say, Hey, can I meet
that guy? Can I meet that girl?

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Can I, you know, you just never
know. It's free marketing. It's,

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it's somebody would have never
met before, you know, and you

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just don't know the
relationship. Since I've been

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doing it over the past few
months. There are persons who

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just absolutely love the
experience of what they had with

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me. And they're like, Corrine, I
just have to work with you.

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Let's find a way to do
something. And I'm like, Sure,

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whenever you're ready, whatever
you're thinking about, let's

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talk about it. And we'll see how
it goes, you know, but I am

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always open to discussing to
reaching out to see it doesn't

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matter. You know, I, I met you I
met other people as a result of

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putting that and saying, Hey,
let's let's have this exchange,

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I do this for you, you do this
for me? No, I have done it. And

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there are persons who haven't
followed through, they may have

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booked and they were supposed to
be on my show and they fell

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through. I don't worry about
those. I don't think about

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those. It wasn't meant to be,
you know, there are people who

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probably may have been on my
show, my show airs live. And

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there are others who it doesn't.
And I have to wait till probably

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next year for me to see the
recording of what of what we

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did. That is just part of
whatever it is. So I am no

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assessing, I think like I
mentioned to you evaluating this

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whole process, because I did the
test of it to be able to know

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how am I moving forward with
that same marketing strategy in

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2022 and beyond, because I want
to continue it. But it clearly

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has to be tweaked in order to
meet certain objectives that I

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would want to happen as well as
for others to benefit from mine,

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you know, say because it has to
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equitable and Right, no, I'm not
sensing that equity. And, and so

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I need to make the necessary
adjustments for that to happen

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that equitable. You know,
reciprocation is just like any

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other relationship, I can't be
in a relationship with you,

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Robert, and I'm giving 100% And
you're given 20. I mean,

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something is gotta give, you
know what I'm saying. So we have

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to have equity, we have to have
balance, and some were

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Robert Plank: getting from you
is that it's a numbers game. And

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if it's a numbers game, then
that means that there's maybe

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like, three or four different
kind of strategies that need to

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be put in place in the correct
order, where step number one is,

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you just do something, right?
You just take some action, you

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say, Do this podcast exchange
extravaganza, let me take some

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action. And then yeah, and then
step two, you measure the

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results. And then you say, okay,
is based on this input. When I

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contact this number of people, I
get this number of podcast

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guests. And that translates to
this number of leads this number

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of clients and number of sales,
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output, and then step. So that's
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something, step two, look at the
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saying, Am I happy with the
output? Or are there other

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tweaks are there changes I can
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less time or get get better
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remove things from the system,
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process. So that way you're
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alternating between the
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fun ideas, and then switching to
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saying, yeah, what did that get
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want to stop doing? Or something
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one or the other? Right?
There's, it's too much of the

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the numbers, the accounting,
there's no imagination, or

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there's imagination. I'm
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coming back. So it's, it's
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thought process that you you'd
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measure the results. I do that
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something fun and never, never
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Unknown: Yeah. And the rain is
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know, just my, my area has
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natural light. So forgive me for
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and dogs, you know. But yeah,
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process, just take action, which
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people just don't want to take
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be lined up, you know, in place.
I don't care. I just take

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action. I mean, I set something
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with. And I just tweak as I go
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when it's necessary. I do the
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certain things that might never
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numbers, necessarily. It's like
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everything on it. I'll tell you
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experience how other people do
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room where live Whatever, what
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mine? He has a desktop on them
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know, and you can also do the
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way I am doing mine and say, oh,
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that learning is not only
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repeatable process. So for
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podcast, I can speak to date and
all of that a lot of people say,

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and so many. I can say that,
honestly, I'm telling you the

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truth. Yeah, I am still building
my data in terms of that. But

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what do I get? I get people
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repeat guest. They are
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show. That's one thing for sure.
They are constantly referring

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guests. To me, that's a constant
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giving me positive rave reviews.
Okay, so there's a follow up and

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engagement, which I post and I
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and tag them on it so people can
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actual words that I use and
their tags. So if there's a lie,

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they could say, yes, it's a lie.
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know, there is a building of
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relationship is not only for
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continues for a lifetime, if
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like I say, call on summits and
conferences, and I may have no

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attendees, but what do I have, I
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somebody that I can depend on
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build out a course on this, I
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do that. Or let's get together
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be. So it's not only the
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that relationship I want when
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they interact with me, it's
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energized, they feel that, you
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brought something to their
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relationship or collaboration
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numbers yet, yet. Okay. It may
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it will come. You know. So you
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thing is, you're going into it
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and you don't get it and you're
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This this, this makes no sense.
I'm not doing this again, no,

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that's not how it works. At
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in my book, that's not how it
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keep at it, you build it, you
build it, I have loads of

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content that I need to really
distill and do a lot of work

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with, you know, but you just
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what you really what really
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Robert Plank: And what I'm
getting so I'm getting from you

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is that you're saying that this
goal, this outcome you have it

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does not necessarily have to be
numbers and and my thinking is,

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it can be am I showing up to my
appointments? Am I Am I you

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know, talking to at least
someone this week, or at least

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someone today or am I putting in
the time the work that I told

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myself I was going to put into
this podcast every week when I

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started and so even just showing
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reminding me that there are so
many times when with this

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podcasting thing sometimes I
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want to meet let's see is it
10/3 is a time to meet with

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Korean already for my podcast
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sometimes flake to to, you know,
not not stick with my

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commitments. And there's all
these little reminders where I

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always tell myself that I
usually dread up until a podcast

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interview or meeting. But two
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glad I did this. I'm so glad to
be here. And even that as right

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near the end of the meeting. I'm
thinking like, Why was I being

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negative? Why was I trying to
talk me out of it. So so many

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things are just like practice
repetition. And that way you

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have the reminders to yourself
to push through, even if you

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don't really feel like taking
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start, then it's fun and you're
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Unknown: I am so glad you
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exactly what I mentioned on my
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you know when on Facebook, you
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this thing I did. It's amazing.
I tell you it's inspiration, I

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take no credit from it for it.
And I I was like God help me

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with this. And he gave me
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the same day I set up everything
and in the evening. I started

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with the 12 the founder. And I
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pass go into the lab and I'm
like Jesus, why do I need to be

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doing this? You know, I
sometimes I forget that I'm

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supposed to be Live doing this
on Facebook, YouTube and

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LinkedIn. And I'm like I said it
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know, this is forcing me to be
consistent. This is forcing me

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to do something that I may not
want to do or like to do or have

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to do. But you know, I just do
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me to be disciplined to show up
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I just wish, if that sort of
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exercise and other areas of my
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it, you know, I'm taking time
away. But you're absolutely

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right. You know, and I have a
few more days to go, I have to

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do on this evening until the
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next few days. And I show up
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disappointment that day. And I
may not show up maybe the day a

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lot of people may be trying to
listen, because they may have

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heard about it in the past few
days. And they didn't get to

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come on, but they have the time.
No. So you know, you have to

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show up no matter what,
sometimes you're having a

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webinar, sometimes you're having
a training your workshop, nobody

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shows on that day, that's okay,
you do it anyway, you do it

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anyway, you produce the content,
and you do it anyway. And you

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can decide how you can set it up
as an evergreen or how you plan

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to use it. After that, you know,
you can generate an income, you

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could give it away for free to
build a list. Guess there's

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value in everything. It's not
only a matter of money, but it

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has value. And I can say there's
value in the list. You don't

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know what that list could
convert two for you, you know,

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happening in my imagination is
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there's a divider in the middle.
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discipline or showing up and
what separates. And the two

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things that are being separated
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the moment, who may feel like
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doing this or not. And then
there's the long term view,

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there's the you that looks into
the past and in the future and

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says I'm glad I was consistent
with all my appointments. I'm

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glad I put in the work, I'm
looking forward to the things

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happening in the future. And if
you can know that, while you

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just push through the discipline
to become a better person, now

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you have more choices. And I
think that's what it comes down

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to right you and I are talking
about the size of your list,

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having these these followers
that are expecting you to do

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your webinars, having all these
relationships, the people you

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connect with in your podcasts,
the bigger those things are, the

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more opportunities and the more
choices, the more options you

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have, which equals freedom. And
so the choice is either don't,

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don't put in the hard work,
don't do these things. And it'll

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be fine for now. But in the
future, you won't have as much

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freedom as if you were aware of
a few things. You had some

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discipline, you did what you had
to do to grow your network. And

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now you can choose all of these
people that have on your

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podcast. Now you can choose who
to take on as clients and what

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price to have, how to repurpose
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more of a choice. And I think
that's where you want to be. And

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so I want to make sure that we
cover in these last few minutes

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what you have going on your
websites your offers. One thing

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to keep in mind is that we want
to make this evergreen as as you

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said, and this episode will be
coming out in early February. So

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the the 12 days of Christmas is
really cool. Except for it won't

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apply in February. But I'm sure
in February you'll have some

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some new kind of sequence
happening. So as far as the

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world of Korean Lafond, and your
website's and your business,

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where can we find out about you
and what has you excited about

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the future?

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Unknown: I would I would correct
you on something there before I

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share my websites the 12 days
countdown to Christmas, even

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though it's a 12 discount on is
not Christmas related. The tips

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that I share is relevant Rojo
light. So if you even if this is

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published in February, March,
whenever the information that I

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share is relevant to you, it is
not Christmas related. I just

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use the countdown to get people
engaged. You know, because

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everybody does a 12 on the 12
days of Christmas Story thing,

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so I just use that and but the
information is relevant at any

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time of your life. persons can
contact me at Lafonda associates

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calm that's li e fo and t a n d
associates.com. Once you go

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there, you can get me any whole
Facebook on my social links are

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there Facebook, LinkedIn,
Twitter, the only thing missing

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is Instagram and my youtube
channel to my podcast is there.

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And of course persons can book a
free 15 minute consultation.

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There's a booking link there as
well as they can book to come on

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my show as a guest. What else is
happening for me just just being

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at peace, loving life,
appreciating that I'm still

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here. There must be a reason why
I'm still here. And so I am

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pursuing that until the end of
my time. And in the meantime,

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between that and then I am
trying to impact as many lives

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as possible while at the same
time having people impact my

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life to make me a better version
of myself. Oh,

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Robert Plank: very inspiring,
wonderful. And you always hear

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about this person has health
issues or this celebrity died

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and if you're, if you're
healthy, if you're mentally

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aware, if you are living and
breathing, then you have it. You

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have it so good. You don't even
know how good

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Unknown: you have. Even if you
have whatever you have, be

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thankful you have pain, be
thankful because pain is an

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indication that says something
is going on and you need to

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check it out. If you're having
headaches, like I have been

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having migraines, you know, it's
an indication of something and I

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just deal with it and hope it
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thankful you are you live a life
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that come to you to be thankful
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complaining, we don't have time
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innocence, that that was
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