1 00:00:06,540 --> 00:00:07,800 Robert Plank: Thuy Reed is here. 2 00:00:07,860 --> 00:00:10,140 She is a remarkable Vietnamese 3 00:00:10,140 --> 00:00:12,300 American woman whose life story 4 00:00:12,300 --> 00:00:15,120 spans war, loss, courage, 5 00:00:15,180 --> 00:00:17,400 resilience, and the unbreakable 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,320 pursuit of freedom. Her journey 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,600 began in a small Vietnamese 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,865 village torn apart by war, 9 00:00:24,045 --> 00:00:25,965 continued through an adolescence 10 00:00:25,965 --> 00:00:28,065 marked by survival and difficult 11 00:00:28,065 --> 00:00:30,405 choices, and ultimately brought 12 00:00:30,405 --> 00:00:32,505 her across the world to the 13 00:00:32,505 --> 00:00:34,845 United States, where she built a 14 00:00:34,845 --> 00:00:37,065 new life, raised a family, and 15 00:00:37,065 --> 00:00:38,805 found her voice. We are here to 16 00:00:38,805 --> 00:00:40,365 talk about her amazing, 17 00:00:40,365 --> 00:00:42,285 excellent book called From 18 00:00:42,285 --> 00:00:44,745 Vietnam with Love, and it's a 19 00:00:44,745 --> 00:00:46,725 memoir, and it's a letter to 20 00:00:46,785 --> 00:00:48,570 America. It is a heartfelt 21 00:00:48,570 --> 00:00:50,670 reflection on the country that 22 00:00:50,670 --> 00:00:53,310 gave her refuge, the freedoms 23 00:00:53,310 --> 00:00:55,770 she cherishes, and the concerns 24 00:00:55,830 --> 00:00:57,870 she carries for its future. It 25 00:00:57,870 --> 00:00:59,370 has everything. It has vivid 26 00:00:59,370 --> 00:01:01,170 storytelling, painful memories, 27 00:01:01,170 --> 00:01:02,970 thoughtful observations, and 28 00:01:02,970 --> 00:01:05,310 profound love for her adopted 29 00:01:05,310 --> 00:01:07,530 country. Thuy brings listeners a 30 00:01:07,530 --> 00:01:09,450 powerful message about 31 00:01:09,450 --> 00:01:11,835 democracy, compassion, and the 32 00:01:11,835 --> 00:01:14,655 true cost of freedom. So, Miss 33 00:01:14,715 --> 00:01:16,335 Thuy Reed, it's amazing and 34 00:01:16,335 --> 00:01:17,655 wonderful, and I'm grateful to 35 00:01:17,655 --> 00:01:18,000 be speaking 36 00:01:18,060 --> 00:01:19,320 Thuy Reed: with you. Thank you 37 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:20,360 very much for having me, 38 00:01:21,740 --> 00:01:22,160 Robert Plank: you're very 39 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,660 welcome. And so what did I leave 40 00:01:23,660 --> 00:01:25,880 out of that introduction? What 41 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,140 should we know about you? 42 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,240 Thuy Reed: Well, I would like to 43 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:38,600 share a bit of my endeavor to 44 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,680 bridge the relationship between 45 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:50,140 Vietnam after the war. After the 46 00:01:50,140 --> 00:01:54,340 war, the United States post an 47 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,520 embargo on country of Vietnam 48 00:02:00,100 --> 00:02:08,640 and during the book, I keep 49 00:02:08,700 --> 00:02:13,380 thinking, you know, if all the 50 00:02:13,380 --> 00:02:18,120 smart, capable Create with 51 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,380 creativity, leave the country, 52 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,980 what they left to Vietnam, and 53 00:02:24,980 --> 00:02:27,620 beside the United States cannot 54 00:02:27,620 --> 00:02:32,360 take in all of so I thought, you 55 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:37,640 know, the best way is to Lift 56 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:41,260 this trade embargo. And I spent 57 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,920 12 years of my life from Ronald 58 00:02:44,920 --> 00:02:48,460 Reagan to Bill Clinton to help 59 00:02:48,940 --> 00:02:54,400 lift the train bug. And I'm very 60 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,700 proud of that achievement. And 61 00:03:00,340 --> 00:03:04,200 today, Vietnam is nothing like 62 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,560 the Agent Orange and bomb 63 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:13,620 busting days. She's not, you 64 00:03:13,620 --> 00:03:17,640 know, where we will like her to 65 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:20,180 be, but much better, and she's 66 00:03:20,180 --> 00:03:20,780 unhealthy, 67 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,900 Robert Plank: very good. And you 68 00:03:23,900 --> 00:03:25,220 have done your part. There's 69 00:03:25,220 --> 00:03:27,980 that aspect of you. We went 70 00:03:27,980 --> 00:03:30,800 through these life changes, 71 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,540 these location changes, but you 72 00:03:32,540 --> 00:03:35,000 also were politically active. 73 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,220 You also made a difference. And 74 00:03:37,220 --> 00:03:39,260 so you have this book called 75 00:03:39,260 --> 00:03:41,680 from Vietnam with love. And you 76 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,360 say that you know so much time 77 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:44,620 has passed, right? Vietnam is 78 00:03:44,620 --> 00:03:46,780 completely different than now 79 00:03:46,780 --> 00:03:48,640 versus then, and what was it 80 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,920 like back then? What led you to 81 00:03:50,980 --> 00:03:51,640 coming here, 82 00:03:55,660 --> 00:03:57,760 Thuy Reed: be here to the United 83 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:04,860 States? Well, I can say that 84 00:04:05,220 --> 00:04:09,240 from what had happened that lab, 85 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,300 what's what brought me here is 86 00:04:12,300 --> 00:04:19,740 that on the cover of the record 87 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,300 albums, the rock and roll 88 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:28,700 record, albums that I received 89 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,880 from my American friends in 90 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:36,080 Saigon, like if, if they to go 91 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,660 home, back up, back in those 92 00:04:38,660 --> 00:04:39,800 days, they can't go back to The 93 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,560 world. They've been going back 94 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,780 to the United States, and they 95 00:04:43,780 --> 00:04:48,160 will leave me a memo of Bill 96 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,420 yours and record albums. And on 97 00:04:52,420 --> 00:04:54,220 those records albums, I would 98 00:04:54,220 --> 00:04:58,540 see, you know, concerts and, oh, 99 00:04:58,540 --> 00:05:01,020 I want to see. America. 100 00:05:07,860 --> 00:05:08,820 Robert Plank: So you listen to 101 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,980 the record albums, and how did 102 00:05:10,980 --> 00:05:12,720 you end up here? 103 00:05:15,180 --> 00:05:16,800 Thuy Reed: Because there was a 104 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,340 during the war. I believe it's 105 00:05:20,340 --> 00:05:26,060 also today, too that an exit 106 00:05:26,060 --> 00:05:28,280 visa from country of 107 00:05:33,379 --> 00:05:39,139 the and there was a man, a guy 108 00:05:39,439 --> 00:05:43,779 from Kansas, who were willing to 109 00:05:43,779 --> 00:05:48,459 wait to all that paperwork to 110 00:05:48,459 --> 00:05:53,499 fish me out of Saigon. Okay? 111 00:05:53,500 --> 00:05:55,360 Robert Plank: And when leaving 112 00:05:55,420 --> 00:05:57,580 Saigon, leaving Vietnam was that 113 00:05:57,580 --> 00:05:59,080 difficult? Were there, like 114 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,380 family friends? It's like you 115 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,000 have to leave everything behind 116 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,260 forever. Sounds scary? 117 00:06:04,740 --> 00:06:06,960 Thuy Reed: Oh no. When I left 118 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:12,360 Vietnam, you know, the war was 119 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,280 still going on. No one's thought 120 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,580 four months later, Saigon will 121 00:06:17,580 --> 00:06:20,900 fall. When I left Vietnam was 122 00:06:20,900 --> 00:06:24,080 the idea of to go see America 123 00:06:24,740 --> 00:06:27,980 and return. I was not, not in 124 00:06:27,980 --> 00:06:30,020 this situation like I have to 125 00:06:30,380 --> 00:06:32,060 leave everything, abandon 126 00:06:32,060 --> 00:06:34,580 everybody. I knew, no, sir. It 127 00:06:34,580 --> 00:06:37,280 was not like that. I came with 128 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:37,820 glee. 129 00:06:39,379 --> 00:06:41,019 Robert Plank: Okay, so it was an 130 00:06:41,019 --> 00:06:42,699 improvement. You were escaping 131 00:06:42,699 --> 00:06:44,139 the war and coming here. And 132 00:06:44,259 --> 00:06:46,899 what were those first few days 133 00:06:46,899 --> 00:06:48,339 and weeks like, I know, like 134 00:06:48,399 --> 00:06:51,219 when I take a vacation to even 135 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:52,479 something like Japan or 136 00:06:52,479 --> 00:06:54,099 Thailand, there's a culture 137 00:06:54,099 --> 00:06:55,299 shock there, so I can only 138 00:06:55,299 --> 00:06:57,939 imagine you coming here. So what 139 00:06:57,939 --> 00:06:59,319 was there, anything that stands 140 00:06:59,319 --> 00:07:01,919 out as far as the big 141 00:07:01,919 --> 00:07:03,899 differences, or the initial 142 00:07:03,899 --> 00:07:05,159 awkwardness being here 143 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,360 Thuy Reed: I came when I was 21 144 00:07:09,540 --> 00:07:13,860 years old in Vietnam. I cannot 145 00:07:13,860 --> 00:07:18,420 say in Vietnam, in Saigon, I you 146 00:07:20,700 --> 00:07:24,980 know, city, Saigon was formally 147 00:07:29,420 --> 00:07:34,220 command of the French colonists. 148 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:40,100 So Saigon is a bursting city, so 149 00:07:40,100 --> 00:07:43,840 I was not shocked to see street 150 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:50,980 lights or paved roads. Well, my 151 00:07:50,980 --> 00:07:54,580 first impression though that 152 00:07:54,580 --> 00:08:00,540 when I exited lax, there were no 153 00:08:00,540 --> 00:08:05,460 checkpoints. And I further 154 00:08:05,460 --> 00:08:07,740 noticed that, I don't know how 155 00:08:07,740 --> 00:08:09,840 well you know that area, but 156 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,700 when you go down to Century 157 00:08:11,700 --> 00:08:14,520 Boulevard, when you turn right 158 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:20,220 on in Inglewood to go to Redondo 159 00:08:20,220 --> 00:08:26,360 Beach, and I saw no sight of 160 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,320 war, no olive green uniform 161 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:36,080 Soldiers, no war propaganda 162 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:41,980 billboards, no smell of spent 163 00:08:44,020 --> 00:08:46,960 ammunitions. So it struck me 164 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:55,300 from LAX to Redondo Beach, 1520 165 00:08:55,660 --> 00:08:58,060 minutes away, I realized there 166 00:08:58,060 --> 00:09:01,080 was no war in the United States. 167 00:09:03,900 --> 00:09:05,640 At that time, I was too young to 168 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,400 think about, oh, why there was 169 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,920 no war here, and why a war in my 170 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:16,560 country. I just just let you 171 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:19,800 know happy that I made it 172 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,060 Robert Plank: great, wonderful 173 00:09:23,060 --> 00:09:25,460 to have escaped that. And then, 174 00:09:25,460 --> 00:09:28,520 as far as getting your new life 175 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,320 built, what was that like? Did 176 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,160 you have to get a job? Did you 177 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,020 start a family? What happened, 178 00:09:36,020 --> 00:09:37,940 as far as building your 179 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:40,180 Thuy Reed: life here at the 180 00:09:40,180 --> 00:09:41,320 beginning, 181 00:09:46,539 --> 00:09:52,179 I married to this boy from 182 00:09:52,179 --> 00:09:57,039 Kansas who brought me here, then 183 00:09:59,799 --> 00:10:04,259 to. Work, I hung out in Southern 184 00:10:04,259 --> 00:10:07,739 California, and then we moved 185 00:10:08,699 --> 00:10:10,559 back to Kansas, is where these 186 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:19,379 folks and there, three months 187 00:10:19,379 --> 00:10:22,159 later, South Vietnam fell. 188 00:10:23,479 --> 00:10:27,859 That's where my life changing 189 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:29,779 event began. 190 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:38,240 Robert Plank: Well, wonderful 191 00:10:38,300 --> 00:10:40,840 and and so and so you've, you 192 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,880 had this culture change. You 193 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,580 went to Southern California and 194 00:10:45,580 --> 00:10:48,220 then to Kansas. You have been 195 00:10:48,220 --> 00:10:50,200 doing this work to get the trade 196 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,000 embargo lifted. And it's all in 197 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,860 this wonderful book. And can you 198 00:10:53,860 --> 00:10:56,440 tell us about, like any other of 199 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,060 the kind of noteworthy moments, 200 00:10:58,060 --> 00:10:59,680 what else will we find in this 201 00:10:59,680 --> 00:10:59,980 book? 202 00:11:01,659 --> 00:11:03,539 Thuy Reed: Oh, and in the book, 203 00:11:04,859 --> 00:11:07,319 the book you will find, of 204 00:11:07,319 --> 00:11:12,239 course, tragedy of war. In the 205 00:11:12,299 --> 00:11:20,179 book you find how war. It 206 00:11:20,179 --> 00:11:23,179 doesn't matter how much land you 207 00:11:23,179 --> 00:11:27,679 own, and if the war take place 208 00:11:27,919 --> 00:11:30,619 in your land, then you cannot 209 00:11:30,859 --> 00:11:33,559 till the land. And then so you 210 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,139 don't have harvest, then you 211 00:11:36,139 --> 00:11:45,279 don't eat. But what I like to if 212 00:11:45,279 --> 00:11:48,399 you ask me about the war, do you 213 00:11:48,399 --> 00:11:53,379 know my brother, two years older 214 00:11:53,379 --> 00:12:03,899 than me, to help light the wait 215 00:12:03,899 --> 00:12:06,419 for the my mom, for my family. 216 00:12:07,079 --> 00:12:09,599 He joined the military when he 217 00:12:09,599 --> 00:12:18,179 was 17 years old, and he was 218 00:12:18,179 --> 00:12:23,359 took down by a sniper. On his 219 00:12:23,359 --> 00:12:28,459 21st birthday, climbing out of a 220 00:12:28,459 --> 00:12:31,519 turret. Is that how you say, you 221 00:12:31,519 --> 00:12:33,379 know the gun, hug on a tank? 222 00:12:34,219 --> 00:12:39,559 Yeah, determined to retreat. He 223 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:44,379 had made body. Buddy. And you 224 00:12:44,379 --> 00:12:48,099 know, folks, I do not like war 225 00:12:49,719 --> 00:12:53,799 because, you know, the bullet 226 00:12:54,819 --> 00:12:57,219 that killed the boy in the 227 00:12:57,219 --> 00:13:00,239 battlefield went straight to do 228 00:13:00,239 --> 00:13:01,439 his mother's heart 229 00:13:07,140 --> 00:13:11,700 and everybody else still hurt 230 00:13:11,700 --> 00:13:12,180 today. 231 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,200 Robert Plank: Thank you. And so 232 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,460 it seems like you see you have 233 00:13:17,460 --> 00:13:18,960 this message about war, and 234 00:13:19,020 --> 00:13:21,020 isn't it just seems so so 235 00:13:21,020 --> 00:13:23,840 stupid, pointless, all of it 236 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,340 like you, when you look at like, 237 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:26,900 you know why wars happen? Well, 238 00:13:26,900 --> 00:13:28,340 it's because, like, this country 239 00:13:28,340 --> 00:13:30,080 just happened to be positioned 240 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,280 there. Someone wants some 241 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,200 resource, and then, you know, 242 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,700 leaders or politicians, they'll 243 00:13:34,700 --> 00:13:36,800 send young people there to shoot 244 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,240 at each other, just because 245 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,800 that's what the the message is, 246 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:41,680 that's what the order is. And it 247 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:43,420 just, it seems so weird and 248 00:13:43,420 --> 00:13:45,280 silly. So Can you unpack that a 249 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:46,480 little bit like just, can you 250 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,220 tell us about what, what your 251 00:13:48,220 --> 00:13:50,200 message is, about war, and just 252 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,480 how, how dumb it is, and what we 253 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:53,320 should do instead? 254 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,780 Thuy Reed: Well, you know, doing 255 00:14:02,620 --> 00:14:11,520 that, ring stage that the amount 256 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,600 of weapon that driver on 257 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,920 Vietnam, a country is smaller 258 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,500 than the state of California, my 259 00:14:21,500 --> 00:14:31,760 dear. And I would say the line 260 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,460 back then was what heart and 261 00:14:34,940 --> 00:14:36,620 minds or something like that. 262 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,620 Robert Plank: Minds, yes, dear 263 00:14:39,620 --> 00:14:39,920 Lord, 264 00:14:39,919 --> 00:14:41,919 Thuy Reed: You cannot buy or get 265 00:14:41,919 --> 00:14:43,839 hearts and minds with guns and 266 00:14:43,839 --> 00:14:50,379 bullets. Cannot 267 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,920 so to me, the war. 268 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:10,800 To today, Vietnamese are still 269 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:19,080 hate each other, and you know, 270 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,780 that's no different. 271 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,480 Than where I'm at here in 272 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:32,360 Georgia, I'm just hop, skip and 273 00:15:32,780 --> 00:15:37,700 jump from Savannah, historical 274 00:15:38,780 --> 00:15:46,000 city, war still hurt. It shows 275 00:15:48,340 --> 00:15:56,380 so war doesn't fix anything for 276 00:15:56,380 --> 00:16:01,620 people who are innocent 277 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,660 bystanders 278 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,320 Robert Plank: makes it worse for 279 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,500 many decades later, the Vietnam 280 00:16:10,500 --> 00:16:13,740 War was 5060, years ago. And how 281 00:16:13,740 --> 00:16:15,240 does all that lead to you 282 00:16:15,540 --> 00:16:17,400 writing this book? What was the 283 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,560 inspiration for that many 284 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,380 people? They imagine writing a 285 00:16:21,380 --> 00:16:22,640 book, they start, but they don't 286 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,920 finish. What was your motivation 287 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,080 for this book from Vietnam with 288 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:27,440 love. 289 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:40,420 Thuy Reed: I spent a time 12 290 00:16:40,420 --> 00:16:44,440 years, as I said, help. I was 291 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:49,240 not the only one worked to lift 292 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,820 the train, bugger, but I spent 293 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,660 12 years that I worked hard, 294 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,180 that the day bill clinton lifted 295 00:16:58,180 --> 00:17:00,660 the train. Boggle the local 296 00:17:00,660 --> 00:17:05,040 newspaper call me up to have an 297 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,640 article about me when I take on 298 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:14,340 a test. I'm dedicated and I want 299 00:17:14,340 --> 00:17:15,600 to write this book I want to 300 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,980 share with you and the viewers a 301 00:17:19,980 --> 00:17:21,440 long time ago. 302 00:17:23,900 --> 00:17:30,380 What's this say? Ah, it's about 303 00:17:30,380 --> 00:17:35,480 the Middle East is domestic. 304 00:17:38,420 --> 00:17:40,640 And if you go do cough and 305 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,560 testing this carbon cardboard 306 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:49,480 pieces is at least 25 years. I 307 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,600 want to say something for a long 308 00:17:52,600 --> 00:18:03,540 time, but January six was the 309 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,900 grand impetus. Is that the right 310 00:18:06,900 --> 00:18:09,780 word to say, Sir, yes. 311 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:18,120 Thank you. When I saw that, I 312 00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:21,020 thought, Oh, my God, you know 313 00:18:21,020 --> 00:18:21,320 what 314 00:18:26,180 --> 00:18:31,520 I've been I saw 13 changes of 315 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,900 government before that. Nothing 316 00:18:35,900 --> 00:18:38,000 like that happened. This is 317 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,540 America. All you have to do is 318 00:18:40,540 --> 00:18:43,540 go back work hard, dedicate more 319 00:18:43,540 --> 00:18:49,060 time finance. What knock doors 320 00:18:49,060 --> 00:18:55,180 for candidate that you wish to 321 00:18:58,180 --> 00:19:00,480 you know that you can do you 322 00:19:00,660 --> 00:19:03,960 support. Don't have to do that. 323 00:19:04,020 --> 00:19:06,480 This is America, the United 324 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:11,520 States of America. So that's 325 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,960 caused me great worry, because 326 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,220 during those days in Burma, 327 00:19:21,540 --> 00:19:22,760 there was a took down of a 328 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,840 government, and some of the 329 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,440 folks in the United States, I 330 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,420 heard, because now, nowadays you 331 00:19:32,420 --> 00:19:33,980 can go online and hear 332 00:19:33,980 --> 00:19:37,520 everything and her, some people 333 00:19:38,180 --> 00:19:42,100 Want to copy that, dear Lord, 334 00:19:42,100 --> 00:19:45,280 You don't want that. You don't 335 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,000 want to do that. For the last 336 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:58,240 century, the White House is set 337 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:04,440 by all. Most even number of time 338 00:20:04,860 --> 00:20:11,220 that each party you know, were 339 00:20:11,220 --> 00:20:14,880 elected in so, you know, I think 340 00:20:14,940 --> 00:20:19,200 13 time Republicans, 11 times 341 00:20:20,580 --> 00:20:24,200 Democrats. I can be a year or so 342 00:20:25,220 --> 00:20:28,160 a couple, but I'm sure I was 343 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,500 close. So to me, that's very 344 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,980 even, right. So the government 345 00:20:33,980 --> 00:20:36,920 is not that awful. But now my 346 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:41,020 first topic in the domestic 347 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:46,600 issues, Robert, I'm sorry, but I 348 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,080 have to read it. Lazy motives. 349 00:20:53,380 --> 00:20:58,480 We vote when we're unhappy. We 350 00:20:58,540 --> 00:21:08,340 vote in when the familiar name 351 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:16,920 on the ballot, we vote with 352 00:21:16,980 --> 00:21:26,660 nice, easy soundbite, but so I 353 00:21:26,660 --> 00:21:29,540 am sorry, but that's how I feel, 354 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,980 and because of that, we keep 355 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:41,060 send back the same politicians 356 00:21:42,020 --> 00:21:46,660 and they and when they click, 357 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,320 they scratch each other backs 358 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:56,920 instead of taking care of us. So 359 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,360 yeah, that's how I feel. 360 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,200 Robert Plank: Okay, that is 361 00:22:01,500 --> 00:22:02,940 profound and deep, and it is 362 00:22:02,940 --> 00:22:05,580 scary that people resort to 363 00:22:05,580 --> 00:22:07,920 violence when you imagine that 364 00:22:07,980 --> 00:22:09,840 the United States is a you would 365 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,340 hope a place above that. But 366 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,900 these things still happen, so 367 00:22:12,900 --> 00:22:14,580 the problems still remain, and 368 00:22:14,580 --> 00:22:17,340 we need to be educated and be 369 00:22:17,580 --> 00:22:19,800 politically active to stop the 370 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,760 evil from coming back. And we've 371 00:22:23,060 --> 00:22:24,740 discussed many different topics 372 00:22:24,740 --> 00:22:26,300 here. Miss till you read about 373 00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:28,340 your book about politics, about 374 00:22:28,340 --> 00:22:30,380 Vietnam, but in these final 375 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,300 minutes of our discussion, do 376 00:22:32,300 --> 00:22:33,680 you think there might be a 377 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,960 missing question? Do you think 378 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,520 Is there something I should be 379 00:22:37,580 --> 00:22:39,380 asking you? I just don't know to 380 00:22:39,380 --> 00:22:39,980 ask you? Do 381 00:22:46,900 --> 00:22:47,800 Thuy Reed: presently, 382 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:04,440 in wars and I want to share a 383 00:23:07,260 --> 00:23:09,000 vision. I don't know what you 384 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,140 call it, a memory or an as an 385 00:23:13,140 --> 00:23:14,100 image, 386 00:23:15,180 --> 00:23:21,860 okay, that I can see it and this 387 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,240 is that why I do not 388 00:23:30,619 --> 00:23:34,939 my sister in law crawl up the 389 00:23:34,939 --> 00:23:37,639 stair. We live in third floor 390 00:23:37,639 --> 00:23:40,879 apartment the end time judgment 391 00:23:40,879 --> 00:23:46,479 I general, tan was killed. Tan 392 00:23:46,479 --> 00:23:47,319 was killed 393 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:59,500 that always with always with me, 394 00:24:00,580 --> 00:24:07,260 my sister in law crawling. So 395 00:24:11,340 --> 00:24:14,520 that's for sure. I think we can 396 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:23,900 solve this if corporations find 397 00:24:23,900 --> 00:24:28,280 way to make money, other ways to 398 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,740 make money, instead of make 399 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,980 things that kill people. But I 400 00:24:36,980 --> 00:24:39,080 guess with new technology, you 401 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,540 you don't, you don't see the 402 00:24:40,540 --> 00:24:46,420 gruesomeness of combat, war. 403 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,920 Yes, thank you, Mr. 404 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,200 Robert Plank: Plank, thank you 405 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,360 Miss tui Reed for sharing with 406 00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:57,340 us. You've seen so much in your 407 00:24:57,340 --> 00:24:58,900 decades, and you've helped many 408 00:24:58,900 --> 00:25:01,440 people and. Given us a lot to 409 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,360 think about. And if this is a 410 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:06,240 topic that excites or interests 411 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,620 or just intrigues you, and you 412 00:25:07,620 --> 00:25:09,540 want to get that deep dive and 413 00:25:09,540 --> 00:25:11,100 find out more, you need to check 414 00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:13,140 out Miss Chewie Reed's book on 415 00:25:13,140 --> 00:25:15,060 Amazon. It is called Dear 416 00:25:15,060 --> 00:25:17,760 America from Vietnam with love. 417 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,960 And her name is t, h, u, y, r, 418 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,420 E, E, D, and you can also go to 419 00:25:23,420 --> 00:25:25,160 her website that's tui. Read.com 420 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:28,580 tui Reed story is one of courage 421 00:25:28,580 --> 00:25:29,780 and perseverance. She's 422 00:25:29,780 --> 00:25:31,580 witnessed the hardships of war, 423 00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:34,160 dedicated 12 years to urging the 424 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,560 US to lift trade restrictions on 425 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,540 Vietnam. She's a successful 426 00:25:38,540 --> 00:25:41,020 author and former Miss Saigon. 427 00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:42,820 She's committed to giving back 428 00:25:42,820 --> 00:25:44,560 to the country that welcomed her 429 00:25:44,620 --> 00:25:47,140 with open arms, and she has this 430 00:25:47,140 --> 00:25:48,400 passion that she shared. 431 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,440 Powerful voice, new perspective, 432 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,660 story of hope, a call to action, 433 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,300 a unique story. It's a new 434 00:25:55,300 --> 00:25:57,220 perspective on the Vietnam War 435 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,980 unlike any other that's g, h, u, 436 00:25:59,980 --> 00:26:03,420 y, r, e, e, d.com, and her book 437 00:26:03,420 --> 00:26:05,700 is called Dear America from 438 00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:08,220 Vietnam with love to we read 439 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,340 Yes. And as we're wrapping up 440 00:26:11,340 --> 00:26:13,860 here, Miss tui Reed, do you have 441 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,900 any final parting words of 442 00:26:15,900 --> 00:26:18,420 advice? Is there a powerful 443 00:26:18,540 --> 00:26:20,480 quote or lesson that you think 444 00:26:20,540 --> 00:26:22,100 you might share with us at this 445 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,720 conclusion of our discussion, 446 00:26:25,820 --> 00:26:30,020 Thuy Reed: you know, Mr. Blank, 447 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:36,200 I love with all my heart, 448 00:26:37,820 --> 00:26:41,140 because this is where everything 449 00:26:41,140 --> 00:26:46,240 that's me and mine is found. And 450 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,240 if anything I want to say to 451 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:54,880 fellow Americans, this is not a 452 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,700 time to go anti science or anti 453 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:03,060 education. You know Beijing. I 454 00:27:03,060 --> 00:27:04,680 said Beijing. I would not say 455 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,720 the Chinese. I would not say 456 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,960 China, but Beijing have 457 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,160 committed this attack that they 458 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,400 call salt, Typhoon salt, like 459 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,540 the sodium that you use to 460 00:27:20,540 --> 00:27:24,200 attack the cyberspace, American 461 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,300 cyberspace. And you know, 462 00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:28,220 American Cyberspace, or 463 00:27:28,220 --> 00:27:35,060 civilians Beijing, a 464 00:27:35,060 --> 00:27:39,560 concentrated is concentrated. So 465 00:27:39,620 --> 00:27:41,860 we need to be careful. This is 466 00:27:41,860 --> 00:27:45,160 not the time to anti science or 467 00:27:45,220 --> 00:27:50,260 anti education, please. Thank 468 00:27:50,260 --> 00:27:51,400 you so much. 469 00:27:52,540 --> 00:27:53,200 Robert Plank: Thank you. It's 470 00:27:53,260 --> 00:27:54,940 more than important than ever to 471 00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:56,860 be aware of these problems. Get 472 00:27:56,860 --> 00:27:59,140 educated with computers, 473 00:27:59,140 --> 00:28:01,140 science, politics, all the above 474 00:28:01,140 --> 00:28:03,780 to stop repeating the mistakes 475 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,400 of the past and have this 476 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,860 brighter future. Do we read Dear 477 00:28:07,860 --> 00:28:10,200 America from Vietnam with love, 478 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,460 wonderful speaking with 479 00:28:11,460 --> 00:28:13,440 Thuy Reed: you. Thank you. Thank 480 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,280 you for having me. You.