1469: Grasp Spiritual Sight: How Prophetic Visions Guide Courage and Purpose with Author and Spiritual Coach Marty Tilley

Robert Plank 0:01 She went from terrifying, prophetic dreams to powerful revelations, and now she's helping others decide what God might be showing them, too. It's Marty Tilly, and she is the author of grasping for spiritual sight. And Marty reveals to us how visions, space, divisions, faith, I should say, and spiritual sensitivity can be used for preparation, not fear. So let's talk about it, her book, as we said, grasping for a spiritual sight, and her website, Marty tilly.com and we're here to talk about the the big questions, right, the deep stuff. Why are we here? What are we doing? So, Marty, glad to be speaking with you.

Marty Tilley 0:42 Oh, thank you. Thank you. I'm so glad to tell talk to you,

Robert Plank 0:47 right? And I'm glad and happy to find out what you have, because we all have thoughts and ideas and things we say and you say something, and two minutes later, it's gone forever, but you put a book, you're immortalized. You're a part of history, right? 500 years from now, someone will be able to find this book, find this podcast, hopefully. And so, what's it about, speaking to our readers and listeners from generations in the future? What is this book?

Marty Tilley 1:12 Oh, yes, it all of it began during covid like 2019, I've always enjoyed my dreams. I dream and I can remember them a few minutes after I wake up. Well, 2019 in December, they took a turn. They started becoming very spiritual, oriented, as if I was receiving a a message and that I should pay attention. And so attention I did. I started dream journaling for two years, and every morning I would get up as quick as I could and jot down as much as I could. And through these two years of journaling, I came up with this book that details some of the more significant. Some of them are very personal, and a few I kept to myself, you know, that were very, very personal, but I put enough in there so people could see that God's alive. He's working. He's speaking to you, if you'll just listen, just that simple,

Robert Plank 2:25 so simple, and yet so many people know this, they hear this, and they don't apply. So hopefully we're here to change some minds and spur some people into action in that form. And aren't dreams wonderful, like, it's just the weirdest rules, aren't they? Like, sometimes you see the metaphors, or it looks like that person, but it's that other person, and it never really starts. You just kind of wake up and you're there, and time doesn't exist. And it's just such a like there's nothing like it. And then you hear about with Dream journaling, that the more you do it, the more you're a member. So it's just a great like self help idea in general. I think especially with your, you know, your subconscious does all this amazing things, and you look up later, you're like, Whoa, it connected these dots and came up with this. And so what kind of amazing dreams did you have? What did you write down?

Marty Tilley 3:12 Well, I started, at first thinking they were just things for me personally, but then I started seeing things that a year later, were coming true. So I knew then that there was a purpose that I was getting these, you know. So I knew then I had to do something. For example, I dreamed of sitting. Your listeners might enjoy this. I was sitting around the conference table, and in dreams, it happens just like that. You're at a conference table, and Putin, the Russian dictator, is right across from me. Can you imagine I'm supposed to be sitting there, just cool as I can be, you know? And I'm like, oh my goodness, and it's so real. And he is Xing out the newspaper from the United States, and he's making notes of what is correct, and then he hands it to me to bring back to America. And I'm just like, okay, all right, I will. And then a Chinese man takes it away from me, and I thought, could that be any more crazy than what all this world is going on right now? You know, we hear the misunderstandings, you know, he said, she said, all of the nations. Anyway, it's just when I when I see that I never thought that, you know, all this would be happening, but it's like, true. I mean, things are happening coming true. They're moving so fast. Don't you feel it? Robert, it's like it's just happening, right?

Robert Plank 4:59 It. It is. And so did you perform any analysis or have any kind of conclusions, like you have Putin's Xing out of paper and then two, and the Chinese man takes it like, how are you supposed to come up with anything from that?

Marty Tilley 5:13 Yes. Well, in the book, I go through some things that like, personally, what they can help you with, especially if you are dreaming. And it will show that if it's spiritual warfare, lot of my dreams, I was being attacked through spiritual warfare. You know, we're it's we are in the battle of good versus evil. And a lot of my dreams involve spiritual warfare. And they came, you would love, I think your listeners will love this. They came in the form of Black Panthers wasps, you know. They don't come looking just like the guy with the red tail and the horns, you know, but, but, Cain, they did. And in my dreams, I was told put on the full armor of God, be careful. You know, we're in a, you know, we're just in this the world that's has evil, and we just have to be prepared. But I think that if you want to pick the book up. You can read each dream and it stands alone, or you can read through the entire book, but one that might interest you, you can pick it up and just read about that dream. And I think it will cause people to think a little bit about what might they be missing. You know, are they hearing a small voice, whether it be a dream or a whisper? You know?

Robert Plank 6:45 Yeah, what it seems like, from what you told me so far, there's some action, some drama, right? And they say that if you have a ship, it's safe in the harbor, but that's not what ships are for. And likewise, if we were just going to say, I'm afraid of my own shadow. The world is so scary, I'll stay at home and do nothing. That's not a life to live. And so do you think that when you have these dreams where you're fighting, you're being chased, there's a battle that it's not something to run away from, right, something to maybe toughen you up,

Marty Tilley 7:19 correct? It definitely is, and it has helped me to become a little more courageous. Because instead of becoming timid, I felt emboldened. And I know that in the Bible it says over 360 times to not fear, and I just decided I'm not doing it. I'm not afraid. You know, I'm just not I'm not going to take it, I'm not going to allow it. And you know, because we're in a crazy world, but we want to live, you know, with your son, with my grandchildren, I want to have fun in this world, and this is not a doom and gloom book, I promise you. It just shows you some journeys you'll go through. And towards the end of the book, I will show you that everything is worth it, every step. And I would not go back. I would not I wouldn't go back in my shell, Robert, I wouldn't do it. Just couldn't, not. Now, the reward is so great.

Robert Plank 8:29 Well, it's a wonderful message, from what I'm hearing so far, and I'm getting from you that maybe we need to, you say, act despite the fear. And there's also that subtext of setting a good example, and it's like putting in the repetitions, right? Because you figure if, if you shy away from the fear, it pushes you two inches that way, pushes you two inches that way, and the next thing you know, your grandchildren see you doing that, and then they do that, versus kind of tackling things head on, solving the problem, that's a way more, better way to go about it. And so I'm curious about, like, what kind of problems has this solved for you? Did you have a dream and say, Oh, I should do decision a instead of B? And any anything change your waking life as a result of these dreams?

Marty Tilley 9:12 Well, it actually caused me to become, as I said, courageous enough to write the book, and want to open up through this web page where people can communicate with me. I actually want to be involved. I want to actively where years ago, I've not even thought about that. I was retired from a job. I was in marketing for almost 20 years, and and loved it, you know, and just did not realize, but now it's like, you know, you have this crazy, wonderful thing you want to do. So I'm hoping the people will communicate with me, and we can just think, Robert, if we all came together, people that. Believed in God, forget the labels, forget the things, titles on the church. What could we do? I mean, just think of what wonderful things we could do for the people. Just it's incredible. And so I'm going to, I'm going to do what I can, and that's as long as I can, and I'm excited because this is new for me. Robert, this is brand new. We're testing the waters.

Robert Plank 10:28 Robert, yeah, and working on your legacy, right? Saying, how will someone remember you? If someone looks up your name, Google, social media, they find your website, they find your book. And we've been mentioning grasping for spiritual sight is the book and the website is Marty tilly.com that's m, a, r, t, y, t, I, L, L, E, y.com, and the kind of the religion and the spiritual psychology discussion, it's so great because it gives you different perspectives, doesn't it? They say, Well, you know, here's, here's the story about 2000 years ago, and this thing with a goat, or this thing with an oil, and you don't hear about that every day, but it says, Hey, here's this parallel. Or there'll be a lot of like, focusing on this word, or focusing on this idea, and it's like, hey, that helps me in this present day, you know, 1000s of years later. And so as far as you getting the words down, you said that you did this dream journal, and now it's a book. Was there, like, a lot of like connecting the dots or revising, or how did you get from journal entries into a book that people want to read?

Marty Tilley 11:38 I tried to think of ways to divide it, because I've got over 300 dreams, and this book is small, so there may be a part two, I'm not for sure, but it's I tried to put it in the beginning, trying to see what all is happening, what's going on in the dreams. And then the middle part, things are beginning to come true. And then, of course, at the end is actual, some prophecies. So I did it in divisions, because I had to, I had to think of some way. Can you imagine 300 dreams to try to think of, well, what people might could learn something from? Because, you know, not all of them would help people, but I did it to validity for validity number one, to show by some of these being true. You know that I'm, I promise I'm not a fake. You know, these things happened. Every word in here is true, and I stand on it and just hope people can learn. I think I'm a psychology major, so the psychology part with the spiritual really helped me to be able to see, you know, what is going on in this head of mine. You know, so it, but I think people will enjoy it, and I think it's going to cause them to think and have more purpose. If they could have more purpose when they wake up for that day, you know, just have more of a purposeful life. That's, that's my goal, is to do that.

Robert Plank 13:17 Hell yeah, that's definitelysomething to aspire to, right? No one when you're a kid, you think about when you're older, like, what will my job be? And no one ever expects to wake up and say, oh, I need to pay the lousy bills today. Well, isn't it a great feeling to jump out of bed and say, I'll write some pages today. I'll read some comments about the book today, I'll go and do some marketing today. That's way more exciting than just like dragging yourself out of bed. And you know, you we only get one life, and we have this kind of finite life. And so you're listening to what your brain is telling you, right? Your your car has the check engine light or the gas empty light, and similarly, your dreams are imparting messages to you, and you're saying, Well, hey, I'm also imparting them to others, and hopefully this will encourage them to listen to their own dreams and just everybody wins. And so you gave us a few examples of these dreams that you have. Would you say, is there like a number one, most vivid, can't miss dream, or has it already been covered?

Marty Tilley 14:18 Well, that one has been covered. And some of the other podcasts, which is towards the end of the book, which is just wonderful. And everybody gets the book to read that one the last but I will tell you one that I read. I mean that I have not read at all to anybody, and it has a beautiful feeling for me. And I think anybody that believes in Christ would feel the same, but I was in the living room with all races, colors, ages, of people. It was very crowded, and Jesus walks in and comes and. Reaches for my hand, and of course, naturally, I am just ecstatic in my dream, and I reach out my hand to take his and what I noticed Robert is in my left hand is a scar from a nail, and that hit me so hard when I woke up that morning, it made it so real, you know, we read about it, we see it, but it hit me like a cement brick. I mean, it was just like, oh, you know, we I've seen the pictures, I've seen the movies, but seeing that scar on my hand just well, you know, just, I couldn't even put it in words. I tried in my book, but it's, it's one of my favorite ones that I've not even talked about.

Robert Plank 15:49 Well, nice, we need to check that out, because that's, that's some powerful imagery, right? It's like even some movies aren't that involved or that memorable. And so we read a book, we unlock the power of our imagination and like, and you're just, you're making me remember. Like, over the years, sometimes you look into this sort of stuff and you think like, Okay, how do I dream more? Dream better? Or remember my dreams? And they say things like, you know, look up other people's dreams like you've had. Or you tell yourself to remember dreams. Did you have to apply anything like that just to remember your own dreams. Or just, is it something that came naturally?

Marty Tilley 16:26 No, it just came naturally. Okay, really, you know, I have one dream that I dream yearly, annually. Have you ever talked to people who had those dreams, that dream, one dream, yeah, and that one is still haunting me, but I'm in New York, and it's very pertinent to right now, as we are, but I am in New York City, and I'm looking at the Statue of Liberty, and she is bombed, and her head rolls near me, and I lay down to die. I don't die, you know, like in your dreams, when you're falling, you don't hit the ground. You know, I do not die, but I know that's what's coming. And I drive I dream that every year, whoa. And I checked with my psychology professor, and he told me just stay out of New York. So I said, Well, okay, oh, I guess I better. I don't know Robert, I don't know, but it's such a dream. You know that I don't know what my mind's doing to me or if God is telling me, but I just know that I'm going to stay away, right? Yeah, I just don't want to trigger anything for New York, either you don't say it

Robert Plank 17:42 Yeah, and you wait five or 10 years and you think, okay, the coast is clear, and then that was the time when that would happen. So just stay away forever.

Marty Tilley 17:50 Exactly, right? Stay away. But dreams are wonderful things, and people dream just they don't always remember them when they wake up?

Robert Plank 18:02 Well, I just had a thought like, what if you're what do you what will you do if, like, you're on a plane and they divert it to New York City and you have no choice, what happens then

Marty Tilley 18:12 I know really well, I'm going to pray. I'm going to start praying. That is what I'm going to do, and just have God to ask them to cover me and the people on the plane, you know, right? Just that's all I know to do. Because he said, stay out, because it was too he just did not want to use his psychological expertise to analyze it. And in my book, I put that, instead of going to him, as with his doctorate, I began looking at the great physician instead of him, you know, so, okay, I just found out that if you hear that something in your head, just listen if it says, Don't turn that way. Don't turn that way. Robert, yeah, you know, it's just, we always think that those are silly thoughts, but you know, the Holy Spirit's in us. And I listen, I listen to mine, because it has saved my life on many occasions.

Robert Plank 19:18 So listen to the this tools at your disposal, right? There's the there's prayer, there's your dreams, there's what you can physically do, there's what others can do. And it's like, apply all those things. It's like, there's this story of the where there was, like a flood or hurricane, the guy sitting on the roof of the house, and he's like, Oh, God, help save me. Give me a sign. And like, a helicopter comes and the boat comes, and he's like, Oh no, I'm still waiting. And then he dies, and he goes to heaven, and God's like, but I sent you those things, so pay attention to the message. And so you said in there that you had, like, some close calls, or it saved your life. Do you have any anything to share with us now in these last few minutes? Just about like a way that all of your experiences here have saved your life in some way.

Marty Tilley 20:07 Yes, one interesting thing is, I, when I, I was born weighing only three pounds, and in the 50s, that's unheard of. I came way too early. So I'm a miracle baby. They do not, you know, they did not say. They told my parents I was not going to make but I did, and then at the age of six, I cracked my skull, and they didn't think I was going to make it. So there's just been some things that God's been weaving through my life that it took me many years to pay attention, but I finally got there so you can it's never too late, Robert, if we're alive, kicking, breathing, it's never too late. You know, now I'm wanting to give him back and say thank you because I have choked on prime real Oh, I could list you so many near deaths, Robert, it's just I have been saved many to many, many times I and I just want to thank him, yes, and

Robert Plank 21:10 we know that gratitude. And you listen to the message, well, in our last couple of minutes, here of our conversation, I I'm always curious about the question I'm not asking. So is there a missing question in our conversation that I should be asking you, I just don't know to ask you,

Marty Tilley 21:27 oh, I can't think, well, one thing interesting, because I know I've listened to your podcast and the great information you give you know regarding marketing and tips for people the way that I even had someone to even look at this book was through an email, just an email that came late one evening. And so I would just urge people eyes open and ears and be alert because I got an email from trilogy, you know, the trilogy Broadcasting Network, and it was out for people that had any interest in writing a book to contact them. It was that simple that it started. Now it's a big journey from there, but, you know, it just when you least expect something, it'll be like, there, there. It will be. And I, I was very grateful for whoever got my email and and sent me that. You know that message, because it started them paying attention to me. So very nice.

Robert Plank 22:39 So answer the email, take the first step, seize the opportunity, and we want you to, yeah, we want you to take that first step of checking out Marty tilly's excellent book. It's on Amazon. It's called grasping for spiritual sight. And there is flying cows, there's ancient leviathans, there's all kinds of wacky, cool, amazing events happening from Marty's dreams and visions. And you want to get this book, and you can find her also at Marty tilly.com and she also has an Instagram account opening soon. That way you can follow her and she would see what she posts. And you know, maybe there'll be a sequel, maybe there'll be a trilogy from her, we never know what's next. And that's Marty. Tilly.com grasping for spiritual sight. And before I let you go, Miss Marty, it's time for the scary part of the podcast where I try to stump you. I try to put you on the spot by asking you about a fun quote or lesson that has served you. So what comes to mind as far as a fun quoteor lesson?

Marty Tilley 23:38 Well, mine is just one that I say every day, and it is in the scriptures, I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. And that's what I go by

Robert Plank 23:52 inspiring I can do all things through Christ who strengthens in me. And let's think about that. Consider that, apply that as we get the book grasping for spiritual sight by Marty Tilly, wherever books are sold, get it. You'll love it. And thank you very much, Marty for showing up, stopping by and just being an excellent person.

Marty Tilley 24:10 Thank you. Thank you, Robert, for having me.