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746: Email Marketing, Copywriting & Conversion with Alchemist of Persuasion Adil Amarsi

Adil Amarsi is a renowned sales copywriter who has been writing professionally since 2007. He has developed a reputation for the effectiveness of his copy, breaking countless records and achieving impressive results for his clients. Adil is known as the "Alchemist of Persuasion" in the marketing world. Today, Adil discusses his expertise in reactivating dead email lists and the importance of extracting clients' personal stories to craft compelling marketing campaigns.

In this episode, Adil reveals the psychology behind persuasion, how to extract your real story, and why laughter and vulnerability convert better than hype. He also breaks down the three biggest mistakes in marketing today — and how removing fear from both your writing and your customer’s journey creates unstoppable sales momentum.

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“Your emails are all your little jabs, and the sales letters are the right hook.”

“Stop using the word ‘learn.’ It’s a dumb word that triggers school associations.”

“Remove as much fear as possible from the buying process—tell people what happens next.

“Some clients think their story is theirs, but it’s not. You have to uncover the real story that drives conversion.”

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745: Transformation vs. Solution: Proven Marketing Principles for Cashflow Podcasting with Ben Krueger

Ben Krueger is the founder and CEO of Cashflow Podcasting, a company dedicated to helping industry experts start, launch, and grow world-class podcasts. With over a decade of experience in the podcasting industry, Ben has collaborated on hundreds of podcasts since 2012. He has applied his proven podcast principles and service systems to help his clients easily host shows that make a profound impact and reach millions of listeners. Today, Ben shares his insights on the importance of having a clear objective and target audience when starting a podcast.

In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Krueger outlines his proven podcasting principles, emphasizing the need to define clear objectives, identify a highly specific audience, and prioritize transformation over simple solutions. He explains how podcasts work best when they create ongoing value and learning for listeners, using examples such as dental practice owners building wealth or busy professionals addressing personal growth challenges. Krueger advises starting with a focused framework, avoiding analysis paralysis, and committing to podcasting consistently over months or years. Resources, guides, and his book can be accessed at podcastprinciples.com for listeners ready to launch or refine their shows.

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“Podcasting is strongest as an audience nurture tool—it builds trust, relationships, and a community around your brand.”

“Focus on transformation, not just solutions…people want to continually learn and grow, not just check off one problem.”

“Start with a crystal clear objective and a specific audience; everything else flows from that North Star.”

“Don’t optimize from the very beginning—get started, learn as you go, and improve over time.”

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744: Semi-Automated LinkedIn Marketing: Find Prospects and Convert Them Into Buyers with Gessie Schechinger

Gessie Schechinger is the laziest salesman in America as well as Vice President of Sales for the OnCourse Sales Engagement Platform. Gessie is passionate about leveraging technology and automation to surpass revenue targets so he can help protect golf and bar time for the salespeople of the world.

In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Schechinger shares how OnCourse enables semi-automated LinkedIn outreach, multi-channel sales sequences, and streamlined task management for small to medium-sized businesses. He stresses the importance of persistence, personalization, and properly structured automation to maximize engagement without spamming prospects. Schechinger also highlights common pitfalls, such as mixing manual steps with automation and underutilizing platform features, while emphasizing his company’s hands-on onboarding and training approach. Businesses can explore the platform, request a demo, and access full support at tryoncourse.com to improve sales efficiency and results.

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“I call myself the laziest sales guy because I hate burning calories on dumb stuff…automation lets me focus on what really matters.”

“Persistence is always the winner…you have to get through those first six touches before people engage.”

“Don’t ever create a grand plan with automation that has a manual step in the middle…otherwise tasks will stack up and fail.”

“Software is supposed to help you, not make your day worse…make sure it brings value to your business.”

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743: Apply the Book Formula Process to Write an Easy Book in Record Time and Get Clients

Robert Plank shares amazing insights of his Book Formula Workshop on how creating a book can help local marketing agencies connect with local businesses in their community, leveraging this as a social proof to get out there, be recognized, connect with people, and in result exponentially grow their own businesses.

You don’t need to be an expert to write a book. For local marketing agencies who have a Local Marketing Asset you can have your book talk about what the LMA can do for your local agency. Or talk about how to set up a Local Media Asset. First is to create a Facebook page, add a website. And then later on, add some contact information or a handful of ideas for some of these local businesses to maybe think about some things outside the box. For the content maybe talk about the type of posts you put out there on your page to get engagement including the MEMES, interesting stories, local news & events, and basically case studies.

Take a step-by-step process on creating a book. Do it incrementally so you’ll never get stuck. Set up a good enough book at first then just add some cool ideas and fun things as you get better at doing it. With that you’ll never get a half-finished book.

Having a book can be leveraged to connect to people and eventually increase your business. It is an amazing marketing tool and makes you stand out especially when you are out there prospecting and networking.

The thing business owners should keep in mind especially when they speak in a local summit or big events is to ensure that they can reuse the content and not let it die in a span of 12 months. You can create a book by recording the talk, get it transcribed, edit, and put it into a book and sell out to those people who participated in the summit.

There are many ideas when creating a book. You can make the mock up book, you can make the quick book that is your actual business card and kind of goes more into detail about the things that you do have a menu of your services have links to your own products or your own other books or you know, any an easy thing that anyone can do is make a list of your favorite tools in whatever in whatever capacity you run your business.

Book on its own is not enough or not a magic button. It should be coupled with the followup and have a local media asset page. It gives you one more step ahead of some of these other people that don’t even have a book.

Utilizing your podcast show where you have the opportunity to sit down and interview somebody in depth. You’re extracting the information from those interviews, having them transcribed and then put them into a book in different chapters is an amazing excuse to be able to walk back into that business and hand that business owner a book with their image on it. It is a cool way to connect to this local business owner.

A blank book can work as a business card because you have your contact details in there. You have bio, you have your web address at the bottom, maybe you put your phone number on it.

You could have a book with no pages and say place to take notes and line my mind. You could have a thing to say take notes, but the footer of every page had your, your name, your website, your phone number.

You could get the mock up made and then while you're still scrambling to finish the inside of the book, start putting out videos or send those reaching out videos to local businesses and just be like “My name's Drew Griffin and I have an upcoming book called local media assets”.They don't have to know that there's nothing written yet and it's still in process.

Simpler can be better. You should not put your entire life knowledge into a book because no one will care about it. Except for you. It'll be too weird. Think in terms of where people are stuck, how can you help them? What are some easy tools or what are some easy tasks that you could do for them, but if they don't want you, they're free to go ahead and try it on their own.

Book Formula Course

Figuring out books hook, concept, cover & mock up. Title, Picture, Author Name, (Front) Picture, Bio, Website (Back)
1st module: figure out idea and have the mock-up business card book
2nd module: Doodle & Present Method- draw a doodle or a diagram or graphic presentation to outline your book content.
3rd Module: Transcribe, edit it yourself,
Bonuses include... How to use your book to get on podcasts and sell more copies of it
How to make an audio book format. You can give away promo codes where someone can take a special code, go to audible.com, get your audiobook for free. If someone gets an audiobook for free, that boosts your sales for the print book on Amazon. Plus you can follow-up and get them to review the audio book.
The audiobook contains Compilation book
How to make a website based on your book
Get interviewed about your book on Marketer of the Day Podcast

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742: Facebook Campaigns and Retargeting: Discover Profitable Paid Social Ads with Naira Perez

Naira Perez has been in marketing for almost 20 years and has been able to work with several industries and some Fortune 500 brands. She got her start in direct response advertising, building brands on TV before digital was even a thing; she received daily reports of calls and orders from clients, and through that data, modified paid media plans and placements as needed to better serve clients.

Naira founded SpringHill Digital in 2016 specializing in paid media, developing digital marketing strategies and optimizing ROI through generating qualified leads. From paid media, integrated campaign design, and audience patterns to new platform initiatives — she does it all.

In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Perez shares her approach to building profitable paid social campaigns, including her philosophy of “give before you receive,” using content to educate and nurture potential customers before asking for a sale. She explains how retargeting and layered campaign strategies can maximize results, particularly in niche markets. Perez also discusses common mistakes, such as “set it and forget it” campaigns and failing to optimize ads consistently, and provides guidance on budgeting and identifying ideal candidates for paid social campaigns. Her insights underscore the value of strategic planning, ongoing optimization, and leveraging data to drive conversions. Interested businesses can learn more or contact her team at SpringhillDigital.com.

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“The general thought is, you have to give to the audience before you can receive…address their pain points before you actually ask them to buy.”

“If a campaign doesn’t work, listen to the comments, educate the audience, target the right people, and keep up with the algorithms.”

“Set it and forget it is the one I see all the time, and it hurts your campaign performance…you have to continually optimize and adapt.”

“We partner with influencers because they know their audience best, and together we create content that engages and converts.”

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741: Book Formula: Solve Problems and Make Money

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Robert Plank shares his expertise in Computer Programming, Podcasting, and Internet Marketing among a wide variety of skills and leverages these skills coupled with passion to solve problems of people and at the same earn a living. He also imparts his secret recipe and shortcuts on how to brainstorm and write a book in 12 hrs, even if you hate writing.

It is vital that we are very much connected to our core and we know what we really are good at and what we can bring to the table. If you want to break the chains of your corporate job, figure out the things that you are good at and at the same time what you enjoy doing, establish the value and significance it can bring to people, solve the problems of people, and leverage these things to earn a living.

Stay on top of your game by being aware of your competitors. Looking at your competitors is not necessarily copying their ideas, products, or services, but it helps you to think of ways to be better than them and alienate yourself and differentiate yourself to stand out among a pool of competitors.

When you start to think of starting a business or service you can provide to people, choose something that you are really good at and have an actual background of doing it. This will help establish your credibility and earn people’s trust. Plus, it makes the whole conceptualization much easier because you know the nitty gritty and the step-by-step process of doing it and the actual value and significance it can provide to people. You can more likely assess the feedback and response you will receive from your audience.

Nothing is perfect. "Waiting" for the timing to be just right is only an excuse not to take action, never get things done, remain stuck, and procrastinate. This irrelevant and nonexistent fear keeps you from "just doing it."

How to Create Your Book

First, name the chapters of your book as questions which can always be renamed later on. This kind of strategy is important because it allows you to create a list of questions that possibly helps your readers. Create a list of questions, name the chapters as questions, in between the questions you answer them, then later on remove the questions and finally rename your chapters.

List 10 questions, the first 4 questions may be the simplest that you can think of -- the basics. "Middle" questions that you think of in sequence 5-7 are probably pointless, futile questions. The 8th through 10th questions are (magically) well thought and smart questions.

From 10 questions, reduce them down to seven. Cross out the three weakest ones.
Rearrange and figure out what’s a logical order to rearrange the questions
You are left with 7 questions- 4 questions are usually the simple and basic ones, the remaining 3 questions are more advanced and present case studies or scenarios.
To narrow down your chapters, use the formula WWHW, Why, What, How-To, What-If to create sub-question on each chapter. Answer each sub-question in two minutes and you end up 8 mins in one chapter. This will ensure a nice transition and flow in your chapter/s

Run spell-check, throw in some graphics, create a book cover on Canva which is for free or get one from freelance sites for $5 to $10, name the title of the book, the author, and a quick blurb on what the book is all about. And that’s how you create a book in 12 hours.

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“Nothing is perfect, and so many times that idea of perfectionism, procrastination, it’s based out of fear…The biggest disservice you can do to yourself is believing perfectionism is necessary.”

“If you have a template, a structure, and you don’t waste a lot of time, you can publish a book in a day and always improve it later.”

“Look at the competition…then figure out how you can do something better in a number of ways; sometimes the value is in making things simpler and more accessible.”

“Build a fence around your idea…spend a little time explaining what it isn’t and who it’s bad for, so the people it is good for will really match up.”

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740: Use Your Book to Land Local Clients, Build a Local Media Asset, Consistently Post on Social Media and Create a Delegated Business

Robert Plank shares an amazing story on how he started and grew, and tells us his forefront tips, techniques, and ventures on how he keeps his businesses on top of their games but still living his best life. He also talks about how he manages his own Local Media Asset and leverages posting of Memes to attract attention and engagement in his local media facebook page.

Robert Plank is a former computer programmer and he started doing Freelance computer programming and eventually explored creating information products, PDFs, and videos on how to become a computer programmer. From all these products, he navigated into building a list of people and asking them their specific interests- things like website templates, sales letter templates, membership plugins, backup plugins he went out there to network and market his products on podcast shows and in return inviting these hosts to his own podcast.

He is a book author. He leverages his books as a marketing tool and proof of concept to land some clients he wants to go after, when he has an existing business/project that he has to promote, or he just wants to get his name out there and his business to be known.

His Local Media Asset Facebook Page is called Local Turlock. He followed the step-by-step process of LMA and created a Facebook Page as a news and events site and post to it everyday about interesting news and events happening in Turlock.

In between these serious news & links, and significant events, there are these things called Memes which are comedic graphics or funny phrases with pictures, or screen grabs from movies paired with catchphrases that are spread in the internet. This normally catches the attention of readers and they end up engaging by liking or commenting on your post.

If a Facebook page gets a lot of engagement and responses, Facebook shows more content of the page to people especially those top fans who actively likes, comments, or engages to the page’s posts.

Robert Plank offers a social content posting service, DFY LMA which stands for Done For you Local Media Assets wherein his team updates your Local Media Asset Pages (Facebook, Website, Instagram) every weekday. His team will be granted guest access to the LMA Pages (Facebook, Instagram, or Website) and post to the page everyday to keep the page updated and running to allow you to focus on more important and money-making tasks. The link to go is DFYLMA.COM

His tips to get his business on top of the game is to find out what you want to accomplish in your business and get into the mindset of getting excited to do it. He also invests on outsourcing people to get certain tasks done for him that he doesn’t like doing or has no time doing and in result he could focus more on much more important things. He also makes sure to go out there and be on podcast shows and also these people be in his own podcast. This way, he could advertise his products, services, and businesses on the line.

When it comes to his personal life, he makes sure to be living his best life. He engages in his hobbies, he gets quality sleep, he allows himself to unplug from work and just go out for a walk or exercise, and he teams with his wife running the house, and taking care of their new-born. Doing all these things while running his businesses.

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“At some point you have to get yourself out there, even though it's awkward, you have to create the YouTube videos, make the blog posts, do the live streams, get on the webinars, get on the podcast.”

“You can even create a book with nothing on the inside; a short book can still open doors and establish credibility.”

“Sometimes you have to figure out a way to generate excitement on demand, even for a few minutes, to get important work done.”

“Hiring someone who makes you money is the best way to overcome hesitation; even a break-even employee is building your business for free.”

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739: Solve, Systematize, Scale: Build an Online Business, Monetize Your Existing Skills, and Master Time Management with Dr. Mike Woo-Ming

Dr. Mike Woo-Ming is a physician strategist, online health influencer, and medical practice owner. He has built multiple successful businesses, including an information product business during his medical residency and his current medical clinic and med spa. Today, Dr. Mike talks about his entrepreneurial career, sharing insights on balancing multiple income streams, building a team, and overcoming the common mistakes he sees doctors make when starting their own businesses. He also talks about his upcoming book, "The Positioned Physician," and his chapter in the book "Level Up."

In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Dr. Woo-Ming shares strategies for managing multiple businesses, scaling operations, and building passive income streams while maintaining productivity and focus. He emphasizes the importance of assembling talented teams, delegating tasks, and knowing the financial metrics of each venture. He advises entrepreneurs—especially physicians—against inaction and micromanagement, advocating for experimentation, outsourcing expertise, and taking calculated risks. Key resources mentioned include his consulting and courses at BootstrapMD.com, his contribution to the book Level Up, and his forthcoming book The Physician Physician, which provide deeper insights into entrepreneurship for healthcare professionals and beyond.

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“I realized that I’m unemployable, and that led me to figure out how to take my knowledge and get paid for it on my own time without substituting time for money.”

“Most doctors say they don’t have time, but if you really want it, you’ll make the time. Motivation is everything.”

“The biggest mistakes I see are inaction and trying to do everything yourself. Put your ego aside and let experts handle what they do best.”

“Find great talent, empower them to be independent, and focus your control on the big picture and the numbers—this is how you scale and grow.”

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738: Get Consistent on Content Creation, Break Through the Confusion, and Create a Digital Marketing Plan with Marty McDonald

Marty McDonald is the Co-Founder and CEO at Bad Rhino Inc., a full-service social media marketing agency based in West Chester, Pa. Since 2002, Marty has consulted with small businesses and startups to help them succeed online.

Bad Rhino is a full-service social media marketing and digital agency that was founded in 2011. Today, services clients locally, nationally, and globally. One of the reasons that Bad Rhino has grown to be so successful so quickly is due to their ability to develop truly unique and highly customized strategies that create incredible exposure for their clients’ businesses.

Their full-service approach means they not only create these amazing strategies and plans, but they also implement them and manage them day to day, including delivering messages to their customers.

In this episode of Marketer of the Day, McDonald discusses his approach to helping businesses navigate content creation and digital marketing, particularly during the disruptions caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. He highlights the importance of auditing existing content, starting with fundamentals, and creating actionable strategies that align with client goals. McDonald explains how his agency supports clients with services including social media management, paid ads, SEO, web design, video, and graphic design. He stresses the value of flexibility, empathy, and revisiting past work for inspiration or reuse. Notable projects and resources mentioned include revamping client campaigns, adapting marketing strategies during quarantine, and the long-term practice of documenting marketing ideas for future use.

Quotes

“The confusion comes from having all these tools at your fingertips, but not knowing where to start. Start with a strategy and an audit, then peel back what you have and make it work for you.”

“You don’t have to start from scratch. Even content from two years ago—or 12 years ago—can be updated, revised, and made relevant today.”

“Most clients don’t have the time to do it themselves. Our job is to take the overwhelm off their plate and build actionable strategies that get results.”

“Don’t wait until a crisis hits to check your processes, insurance, and team health. Being proactive makes you more resilient when the unexpected happens.”

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737: Industrial Strength Marketing: How to Brand, Modernize, and Grow Your Manufacturing, Distribution, or Workforce Recruiting Business with James Soto

James Soto is a three-time Inc. 5000 Fastest Growing Company leader, keynote speaker, and recognized contributor to Fabtech, HubSpot, Modern Machine Shop, Mashable, and LinkedIn events, as well as the host of Industrial Strength Marketing on YouTube, where he shares marketing insights that help industrials make marketing the strength of their business.

As Founder and CEO of Industrial Marketing Agency, one of North America’s top marketing agencies, James has worked with major B2B and industrial brands such as Motion Industries, Schneider Electric, ABB Baldor, SKF, Coats, Hunter Fan, NIST, PAM Transport, ASME, and Manufacturing USA.

In this episode of Marketer of the Day, James Soto discusses his current work with industrial clients and how his agency helps manufacturers improve branding, marketing strategy, and customer engagement. He emphasizes the importance of being of service, creating inspiring content, and leveraging empathy to connect with buyers and employees. Soto highlights Manufacturing Day as a notable project that has grown to thousands of events, millions of viewers, and widespread industry recognition. He encourages industrial companies to adopt modern marketing practices, embrace digital channels, and measure readiness through tools like the Marketing Readiness Assessment. Soto underscores that industrial marketers have a unique opportunity to tell the story of the products they design and manufacture, showing how these innovations shape the world.

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“Industrial marketing is different because it involves interdependent products and long decision-making cycles. One wrong part in a supply chain can create huge problems.”

“Marketing in the industrial sector is often missing or mismanaged. Leadership has to recognize that marketing is critical for staying competitive.”

“Industrial companies need to focus on being of service and creating inspiring work. They have deep knowledge and can tell their story better than anyone else.”

“Open your mind. Look at other industries, other marketing approaches, and think about how you can modernize your strategy to remain relevant.”

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